Looks Like Labour Are Panicking Here.

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33868771

[mikey4444]

Why TTT ? If these fraudsters have been caught out, why is it "panicking" to ban them ?

I can't see your logic here !

[Peter Pedant]

the issue is that the tree huggers at the Been favour Corbyn

so they cant very well carry headlines - Tories cock-a-hoop a t prospect of Corbylunacy victory

[Peter Pedant]

ah Mikey the inescapable logic is that if Corbyn is elected leader
we will have a tory govt until er they find someone else
this could take up to twenty years

[sunny-dave]

A Corbyn win will at least give us a robust and principled opposition to the ghastly "call me dave" and his government "of the toffs, by the toffs, for the toffs" for the three or four years.

All of the others seem to be heading towards the centre and being "ToryLite" with an unseemly haste - how can they challenge a government when they aspire to nothing more than to be dressed in its clothes.

If, in around 2019, Corbyn is a disaster in the polls (which he may or may not be) then he can be quietly ditched for one of the Next Generation who are untainted by the current no-hopers and their increasingly pathetic trimming.

[Orderlimit]

Blimey, what a shambles. Almost everything they do goes horribly wrong, imagine if this incompetent bunch had won the eloection.

[Hopkirk]

When Jeremy is in charge, will lots of Labour MPs cross the floor to the Liberals?

[ToraToraTora]

mikey they are party members surely they have a right to vote. Can you imagine the howling from the left if the Tory's banned people from voting because they intended to vote for the "wrong" candidate.

[naomi24]

With not an electable candidate to its name, Labour really is in a pickle. Absolute shambles.

[Peter Pedant]

Do parties commonly implode like this ?

or do they renew themselves ?

what happened to the Liberals in 1906 ? ( when they lost all their seats )

[sevenOP]

Maggie would approve of your resolute Tory fear tactics TTT.

Seems the blue fear-attack on Corbyn is intensifying as increasing numbers of the electorate have realised Osbourne has created more public debt than all the Labour governments combined... maybe the bread-circuses+austerity toxic mix facade is crumbling ?

[jim360]

In 1906 the Liberals reacted to losing all their seats by forming a government with a thumping majority. Maybe you mean 1924, PP?

And the answer is basically that they drifted into obscurity for most of the next 50 years or so. Not necessarily a good omen for the Lib Dems, or Labour for that matter if they follow suit. The difference is that Labour was able to take up their place as the second main party after 1924 saw the final death of one of the leading parties. Who would take over from Labour if it fell from grace?

[Ric.ror]

When Jeremy is in charge, will lots of Labour MPs cross the floor to the Liberals?

I don't see why they should leave their party - JC (or this years ice bucket challenge as I refer to him) did not leave the party when Brown,Blair,Smith or Kinnock lead the party

[ichkeria]

I don't see Labour splitting if Corbyn becomes leader.
1983 was different: back then Labour was a very different party: the hard left candidates were Benn and Heffer, and Michael Foot was actually seen as a middle ground candidate! Michael was a brilliant speaker and a great intellect, but a pretty hopeless party leader.
The problem Jeremy Corbyn would have is that there are very few credible figures in the parliamentary party who share his views. To be blunt, if he tried to form a shadow cabinet consisting of Dian Abbott, John McDonnell and co it would probably not last five minutes and I daresay his leadership would not last a lot longer.
The tragedy for me is that while this farce is enacting, the Tories are having a whale of a time, ditching policies from their manifesto they thought they would never have to implement as they didn't believe they would win, and doing immense damage with what they ARE doing: in short what any party with a wafer-thin majority would do in its early months, with opposition in disarray and their own loony right not yet properly in battle formation
And what does it say about our politics, that our youth are seemingly transfixed by a politican whose views are largely those of a dinosaur?

[youngmafbog]

TGL must be laughing in her grave.

[Jackdaw33]

What puzzles me is where are all the big beasts in this contest? Apart from Mrs Ed Balls I had not heard of the other three before now.

[Gromit]

ToryLite Labour have lost the last 2 General elections under Brown's and Miliband's leadership. What is the point of losing a third the same way?

Instead of Labour trying to be like the Tories, they should try to be less like the Tories. And give the public a genuine choice in 5 years time, instead of no choice.

[Jackdaw33]

Your argument has some merit there, Gromit.

[naomi24]

Please, not Mrs Balls! That really would result in the proverbial 'balls up'.

[Khandro]

Hopkirk
//When Jeremy is in charge, will lots of Labour MPs cross the floor to the Liberals?//
No I doubt it, but UKIP could see a few more new faces.

[ichkeria]

"Instead of Labour trying to be like the Tories, they should try to be less like the Tories. And give the public a genuine choice in 5 years time, instead of no choice. "

It is possible to be less like the Tories without espousing the fossilised policies of the far left. A serious issue I feel id that people simply are not interested in poilitics: they don't look that deeply into the policies and therefore believe that the two parties are "just the same" whereas in actual fact they are not at all. That, I am sure, is why Corbyn is popular, because he is different. Many of the ways in which he is different are indeed welcome, and I would support him were it not for the fact that his political baggage ciontaines too many ticking time bombs