Why ?

[bazwillrun]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11815815/CorbynApologies-Twitter-mocks-Jeremy-Corbyn-over-pledge-to-apologise-for-Iraq-War.html

Jeremy Cor'blimey is a useless p r a t t, the person that should apologise, not that it would mean anything is Phony B Liar

[andy-hughes]

I admire Mr Corbyn for his honesty and integrity - and that position is always going to lay him wide open to the ridicule he has experienced, but he is old enough and experienced enough to know that for himself.

[TheChair]

Corby would be right to apologise on behalf of the country.
As for Blair, never mind apologising, the *** should be in jail.

[naomi24]

^Well that's something I suppose. He can hardly be admired for his common sense.

[naomi24]

^That was in response to andy-hughes' post.

[Gromit]

It is to further distance the party from the Tory Liar years.
If the Labour Party apologises for taking us into a disastrous war, but its old Leader doesn't, then there is is a clear separation of the two.

[naomi24]

I see no point in this kind of apology. It serves no practical purpose and changes nothing.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "^That was in response to andy-hughes' post."

You can always cut-and-paste to avoid any confusion about which post you are responding to!!!!

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "I see no point in this kind of apology. It serves no practical purpose and changes nothing."

You could argue the same about flowers and cards at a funeral - it doesn't change the fact that someone is dead.

But sometimes, people need to make an expression of their feelings, and the criteria of whether or not it changes anything, or makes a tangible difference to events is not the reason why they do it - or equally, a reason why they should not.

[naomi24]

I do when I think it's necessary. On this occasion I didn't think it was.

[naomi24]

//You could argue the same about flowers and cards at a funeral - it doesn't change the fact that someone is dead. //

What a strange analogy! Cards and flowers at funerals aren't intended to be apologies.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "Cards and flowers at funerals aren't intended to be apologies."

Of course they are not - but they convey feelings, but fail to change anything, and that is the link to the apology that Mr Corbyn is proposing.

[naomi24]

Still think it's a daft analogy.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - "Still think it's a daft analogy."

Fair enough.

[youngmafbog]

So its Tory liars eh Gromit??


Sorry mate it was not Tories that voted Blair in so stop trying to insinuate that the war was the Tories fault.

An apology is utter nonsense. There are no feelings Corbyn is courting votes.

[ichkeria]

It wasnt the Labour Party which invaded Iraq, it was a previous now defunct labour government with the backing of the Tories
So, a pointless gesture. Welcome to the Corbyn era :-)

[Gromit]

ymb,

Tory Liar = Tony Blair.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

/// You could argue the same about flowers and cards at a funeral - it doesn't change the fact that someone is
dead. ///

Just apologise for them being dead, that's a new one, but then again isn't that just what Corbyn is doing for the dead of the Iraqi war?

But don't let it catch on or there be a sudden drop in profits for the florists and the card industry.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - "Just apologise for them being dead, that's a new one, but then again isn't that just what Corbyn is doing for the dead of the Iraqi war?"

I'm not sure where you have made the leap to the notion that I believe that flowers and cards are 'an apology' for people being dead - unless I have misunderstood your point.

But no, I don't think Mt Corbyn wants to apologise for people being dead - he wants to apologise for the circumstances of their deaths - a futile un-thought-through unplanned knee-jerk ego-trip war which is what put those people into the situations where they died.

I think that fact that history clearly demonstrates that they clearly died in vain merits an apology from the government of the day - but that is unlikely, so Mr Corbyn is offering what is possible - an apology from the party from which that government was formed.

[bazwillrun]

"an apology from the party from which that government was formed. "

nothing but mealy mouthed words to win votes....

[andy-hughes]

bazwilrun - ""an apology from the party from which that government was formed. "

nothing but mealy mouthed words to win votes.... "

I doubt that is the intention, and I certainly doubt that will be the result!