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Not heard much about it this year, looks like they've upset the journos!
Not heard much about it this year, looks like they've upset the journos!
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Morning TTT !
I am not sure what the £100 is for ? Why is it needed and what will it be used for ?
I seem to recall that Brighton Council recently announced that journalist would be charged £200 for the right to interview someone on the Beach !
If everybody ignores this, I can't see how they can enforce it.
I am not sure what the £100 is for ? Why is it needed and what will it be used for ?
I seem to recall that Brighton Council recently announced that journalist would be charged £200 for the right to interview someone on the Beach !
If everybody ignores this, I can't see how they can enforce it.
Who is interested anyway?
But could this be the reason, they just don't like to see their dirty washing hanging up to dry?
/// During its history, the carnival’s relationship with the media has often been strained, and for many years newspapers treated the festival as a crime story rather than a celebration of cultural diversity. ///
But could this be the reason, they just don't like to see their dirty washing hanging up to dry?
/// During its history, the carnival’s relationship with the media has often been strained, and for many years newspapers treated the festival as a crime story rather than a celebration of cultural diversity. ///
I think this is a foolish move by the Carnival Council.
As advised, it is impossible to enforce - news crews will simply stand on public streets and film and interview, as they are legally entitled to do.
This makes the Committee look controlling, mean, undemocratic, and sinister - none of which aids their ongoing sterling efforts to remove all those elements from its event.
As advised, it is impossible to enforce - news crews will simply stand on public streets and film and interview, as they are legally entitled to do.
This makes the Committee look controlling, mean, undemocratic, and sinister - none of which aids their ongoing sterling efforts to remove all those elements from its event.
I'm interested, it's not far from me, and I generally enjoy it though it does no good to my already fragile hearing. But it's expensive to arrange and I can't blame the organisers for trying to get the money from somewhere. I don't see how it could possibly work though; everyone there will be waving selfie sticks and taking their own photos, that's just how it is these days.
AOG - "Who is interested anyway?"
In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all.
"But could this be the reason, they just don't like to see their dirty washing hanging up to dry?
/// During its history, the carnival’s relationship with the media has often been strained, and for many years newspapers treated the festival as a crime story rather than a celebration of cultural diversity. /// "
I think the organisers do have a difficult relationship with the press - but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one.
But that stance is not excused by trying to curtain civil liberties and press freedom.
In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all.
"But could this be the reason, they just don't like to see their dirty washing hanging up to dry?
/// During its history, the carnival’s relationship with the media has often been strained, and for many years newspapers treated the festival as a crime story rather than a celebration of cultural diversity. /// "
I think the organisers do have a difficult relationship with the press - but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one.
But that stance is not excused by trying to curtain civil liberties and press freedom.
andy-hughes
/// AOG - "Who is interested anyway?"
/// In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all. ///
I entirely agree but I was referring to my interest in hearing about the Notting-Hill carnival.
/// but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one. ///
I think that the Carnival committee are exaggerating a little here, if crime is committed then it is the presses responsibility to report on it.
/// AOG - "Who is interested anyway?"
/// In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all. ///
I entirely agree but I was referring to my interest in hearing about the Notting-Hill carnival.
/// but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one. ///
I think that the Carnival committee are exaggerating a little here, if crime is committed then it is the presses responsibility to report on it.
There will be literally thousands of people filming on their mobile phones, so if the event is not full of journalists, then it does not really matter. If there are any 'incidents' they will be on YouTube instantly, and the Daily Mail and Dault Express journalist can report in that..
The recent Shoreham Air Crash probably had no national newspaper reporters in attendance, but the accident was recorded from many various angles, and many column inches were filled with images from those.
The Carnival Committee probably think that they are only going to get bad press anyway, so they had might as well earn some money from them. I have never been to the Carnival, but I thought it followed public roads. Not sure anyone can forbid journalists from public places or charge them.
The recent Shoreham Air Crash probably had no national newspaper reporters in attendance, but the accident was recorded from many various angles, and many column inches were filled with images from those.
The Carnival Committee probably think that they are only going to get bad press anyway, so they had might as well earn some money from them. I have never been to the Carnival, but I thought it followed public roads. Not sure anyone can forbid journalists from public places or charge them.
AOG - "andy-hughes
/// AOG - "Who is interested anyway?"
/// In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all. ///
I entirely agree but I was referring to my interest in hearing about the Notting-Hill carnival."
Fair point.
" /// but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one. ///
I think that the Carnival committee are exaggerating a little here, if crime is committed then it is the presses responsibility to report on it."
I wouldn't argue, but I think the committee's perception is that the media zero in on the crime only, rather than the event, which gives the impression that event is simply a day out for criminals, and that perception can influence people against attending.
/// AOG - "Who is interested anyway?"
/// In matters of civil liberty and press freedom, I think we should all be interested, since the onging effects and potential precidents affect us all. ///
I entirely agree but I was referring to my interest in hearing about the Notting-Hill carnival."
Fair point.
" /// but their point that the media report the event as a crime story is a valid one. ///
I think that the Carnival committee are exaggerating a little here, if crime is committed then it is the presses responsibility to report on it."
I wouldn't argue, but I think the committee's perception is that the media zero in on the crime only, rather than the event, which gives the impression that event is simply a day out for criminals, and that perception can influence people against attending.
andy-hughes
/// I wouldn't argue, but I think the committee's perception is that the media zero in on the crime only, rather than the event, which gives the impression that event is simply a day out for criminals, and that perception can influence people against attending. ///
Surely Andy if crime is being committed then as regards the press reporting on it, surely crime takes precedent over the reporting or filming of some people in very fancy costume marching down the street.
Further more, if crime is taking place perhaps the reporting of it should influence people against attending, for their own safety?
Of course in the interest of public safety the Home Secretary could perhaps ban it from taking place?
/// I wouldn't argue, but I think the committee's perception is that the media zero in on the crime only, rather than the event, which gives the impression that event is simply a day out for criminals, and that perception can influence people against attending. ///
Surely Andy if crime is being committed then as regards the press reporting on it, surely crime takes precedent over the reporting or filming of some people in very fancy costume marching down the street.
Further more, if crime is taking place perhaps the reporting of it should influence people against attending, for their own safety?
Of course in the interest of public safety the Home Secretary could perhaps ban it from taking place?
AOG - "Surely Andy if crime is being committed then as regards the press reporting on it, surely crime takes precedent over the reporting or filming of some people in very fancy costume marching down the street."
It does, but I think the committee feels that the slant placed on the crime (seriously reduced in recent years) infers as I said that it is a criminals' festival, rather than the multi-cultural event it actually is.
It's about balance - the committee feels that press has that aspect wrongly tilted.
It does, but I think the committee feels that the slant placed on the crime (seriously reduced in recent years) infers as I said that it is a criminals' festival, rather than the multi-cultural event it actually is.
It's about balance - the committee feels that press has that aspect wrongly tilted.
*** There have been five murders at Notting Hill Carnival between 1987 and 2004. One of them was a stabbing over some food. ***
This is a very interesting view on the Notting Hill Carnival, no not a white person's view, but a black person's.
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This is a very interesting view on the Notting Hill Carnival, no not a white person's view, but a black person's.
I and I am sure AnswerBank have no control over some of the vile language, so please be warned.
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