If You Think Things Are Bad Now...

[Svejk]

...wait till these fools are running the country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/maryam-namazie-secular-activist-barred-from-speaking-at-warwick-university-over-fears-of-inciting-hatred-against-muslim-students-10517296.html

[bazwillrun]

and yet more kow towing so as not to "offend" them....as the comments say, if shed been slagging Christanity they wouldnt even bat an eyelid...

[Svejk]

bigger fools then.

[anotheoldgit]

While I agree with bazwillrun regarding the one sided approach between Islam and Christianity, one must also take into consideration that we wouldn't wish certain Islamic clerics from spouting their rhetoric in universities, so we cant be seen to be hypocritical in allowing others to voice their rhetoric.

[jourdain2]

Freedom of speech was a casualty a long time ago. :( Don't know anything about the lady, but universities are supposed to encourage debate. If she's criticizing religions generally( as she should be doing as a secular activist) then I don't see why Muslims should be singled out more than any other group for hatred to be spawned.
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[Svejk]

They don't object to 'hate preachers', aog. Just secularists, Israelis and Ukippers. They've even refused to condemn ISIS.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/11444711/Jihadi-John-Should-hate-preachers-be-banned-from-British-university.html

[vetuste_ennemi]

Jim360 is an expert in these matters and will (I hope) come along to explain very patiently to us thickos why great centres of learning like Warwick need to be protected from moral contagion of the sort this woman would undoubtedly spread.
Old-fashioned knuckle-dragging bigots like me who believe in free speech wouldn't give a damn about "certain Islamic clerics from spouting their rhetoric in universities". If I couldn't go head to head with Anjem Choudary and convince an audience that my moral values were superior to his I shouldn't be at university. Even Warwick.

[vetuste_ennemi]

And Jesus wept.

[ToraToraTora]

is there any danger that they will get to run the country?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Not from Warwick, no.

[jim360]

Am I?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Better an over-reaction than no reaction, innit.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Gender segregation out of respect for the "sisters". For that, aren't you?
Safe areas to protect the mimosas from exposure to hot sunlight and sweaty proles (like the average Labour voter). For that, aren't you?
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[jim360]

Uh... no?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Good heavens, I've misread him! In this case I'm delighted to be proved wrong.

[jim360]

I'm just trying to work out when I ever opened my mouth on this subject at all. To the best of my knowledge the only time would have been to say that student politics sucks and I'm glad I steered well clear of it in my time as an undergraduate.

[vetuste_ennemi]

You opened your mouth on the "subject" (i.e. the new moral orthodoxy) when you started a thread praising the humiliation of a Nobel laureate for daring to suggest that a woman may burst into tears when criticised.

[jim360]

Oh. That. I don't see how that relates to this really -- but there you go. As it happens, I'd hoped people would have forgotten about that. As the story developed, it seemed that things were not so clear-cut as had first appeared (ain't that always the way...) and I was beginning to regret posting on it so quickly. But there you go. A bit late now, and I'm not so stupid as to try and chase down a right to be forgotten.

[fiction-factory]

I do wonder whether, if the vast majority of Muslims were white, their views on things like homosexuality and the role of women would make them be seen as right wing and the Muslim radical speakers would then be prohibited from speaking at our universities