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How Is This Racist?
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Here we go again, the usual suspects jumping up and down shouting racism just because someone dares to raise an issue they don't agree with.
Here we go again, the usual suspects jumping up and down shouting racism just because someone dares to raise an issue they don't agree with.
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Baby carriers for migrant's babies???????????
They should be charged with putting their young children at risk.
Baby carriers for migrant's babies???????????
They should be charged with putting their young children at risk.
I heard a Syrian family on R4 today - much the same attitude. They didn't see any problem with other people's taxes answering their desire to live a better life in the Netherlands. When asked if they felt sorry for other Syrian families left behind in the war-zone the answer was 'No' and words to the effect that it was every man for himself and they had to get to Europe before the borders close. In effect 'the Devil take the hindmost'!
Undeserving 'refugees' they were quite safe in Jordan, just wanted a nicer life.
Undeserving 'refugees' they were quite safe in Jordan, just wanted a nicer life.
Any chance that all those young, healthy looking men arriving on a daily basis could steel themselves, band together and make a stand, fight and (sadly yes, it happens) maybe die for the freedom and democracy they so desperately crave, just like my grandfather and countless hundreds of thousands of others did in the face of tyranny in WWII?
Just a thought.....
Just a thought.....
Are the British people racist? I honestly think not.
Why do people think the British people are Racist?
Why don't the people that call the British People Racist ask the people that are trying to get to the UK with nothing in their pockets.
Am I racist? a lot on here think I am.
Am I? no, your are welcome but don't expect me or my taxes to keep you, if you can not keep yourself don't expect the UK to keep you, "Why" we have a crisis here with employment, our NHS, Schooling, Housing, & a Government that hasn't clue how to deal with it.
Why do people think the British people are Racist?
Why don't the people that call the British People Racist ask the people that are trying to get to the UK with nothing in their pockets.
Am I racist? a lot on here think I am.
Am I? no, your are welcome but don't expect me or my taxes to keep you, if you can not keep yourself don't expect the UK to keep you, "Why" we have a crisis here with employment, our NHS, Schooling, Housing, & a Government that hasn't clue how to deal with it.
I've suggested that before, chilldoubt. All fit men should be sent straight back to try to change their country to what they want it to be or even conscripted into Assad's army. As someone pointed out, the pictures of war-time (WW2) refugees were all of women, children and old men.
I received a few critical replies on here - but in real life most people seem to be saying the same thing. :(
I received a few critical replies on here - but in real life most people seem to be saying the same thing. :(
The artist used a photo copyrighted by Save the Children. He should pay a Royalty to the Charity for stealing their picture. Apparently the so called 'artwork' had been reproduced mant thousands of times, so the Rotalty should be punative and substantial.
The Syrian girl did not choose the USA and Russia to stage a proxy war in her country making it an hell hole.
The caption, if accurately translated, does not represent her situation accurately. More than a quarter of a million people have been killed in the Syrian conflict. Wanting to escape that fate does not make her, or her guaurdians, economic migrants.
So yes it is racist. It is also inaccurate, heartless, unfunny, not clever and a rip off of others' work.
The Syrian girl did not choose the USA and Russia to stage a proxy war in her country making it an hell hole.
The caption, if accurately translated, does not represent her situation accurately. More than a quarter of a million people have been killed in the Syrian conflict. Wanting to escape that fate does not make her, or her guaurdians, economic migrants.
So yes it is racist. It is also inaccurate, heartless, unfunny, not clever and a rip off of others' work.
Do be sure to fire off a stern complain to the Japanese embassy gromit. They will require your full name and address of course with an itemised list of the inaccuracies, and racist elements. The address and telephone number is provided.
Embassy of Japan
101-104 Piccadilly
London W1J 7JT
Tel: 020 7465 6500
Embassy of Japan
101-104 Piccadilly
London W1J 7JT
Tel: 020 7465 6500
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Since civil war broke out there, 310,000 people have been killed, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Thursday. 7.9 million people have been driven from their homes.
Violence has plunged well over half of all Syrians into such destitution that they are in dire need of survival aid, says the United Nations. //
Every parent would want to get their children out of that. It is a matter of survival, not an economic reason for leaving. A so called artist, in one of the worlds richest countries, labels them economic migrants. He is either very stupid, extremely cynical or more likely, just a xenophobic right wing bigot.
Since civil war broke out there, 310,000 people have been killed, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Thursday. 7.9 million people have been driven from their homes.
Violence has plunged well over half of all Syrians into such destitution that they are in dire need of survival aid, says the United Nations. //
Every parent would want to get their children out of that. It is a matter of survival, not an economic reason for leaving. A so called artist, in one of the worlds richest countries, labels them economic migrants. He is either very stupid, extremely cynical or more likely, just a xenophobic right wing bigot.
Anyone notice that the only people who bang on about racism on the AnswerBank are those who complain about people banging on about racism.
Take a look at the last 50 posts relating to race and/or racism.
I'm not criticising those who are exercising their freedom of speech - just pointing out that much of the hot air balloon of racism is being kept aloft by those who complain the loudest about its flight path.
Take a look at the last 50 posts relating to race and/or racism.
I'm not criticising those who are exercising their freedom of speech - just pointing out that much of the hot air balloon of racism is being kept aloft by those who complain the loudest about its flight path.
gromit // So yes it is racist. It is also inaccurate, heartless, unfunny, not clever and a rip off of others' work. //
I've just checked a few dictionary definitions of the word 'racist', (always worth doing because no-one can agree on what it means) and it doesn't fit any of them, so I'd disagree with Gromit's first sentence above, but I'd agree with the second one.
I've just checked a few dictionary definitions of the word 'racist', (always worth doing because no-one can agree on what it means) and it doesn't fit any of them, so I'd disagree with Gromit's first sentence above, but I'd agree with the second one.
Graphic: A doctored 'Save the Children' image of a destitute Syrian girl. Its self a piece of propaganda meant to tug on our heart strings and guilt and intended to solicit financial donations.
The caption: // "I want to live a safe and clean life, eat gourmet food, go out, wear pretty things, and live a luxurious life… all at the expense of someone else," reads the text on the illustration above. "I have an idea. I'll become a refugee." //
This subverts the original message and the original purpose of the image. Instead of pity, The caption wants us to be angry at the child in the image for being grasping (wanting gourmet food and luxuries) for being lazy (not earning them but wanting others to pay) and for being manipulative (she can get all she wants by deciding to make herself a refugee).
It is racist because the image is chosen to represent all middle east people. If we didn't know she was Syrian, she could quite easily be Palestinian, Iraqi, Kurdish. And the caption says they are lazy, greedy and manipulative. And the "wanting others to pay" partpresumably means us, so we are portrayed as better, and they as inferior. Which is essence is what racism is - our race is better than your race.
The caption: // "I want to live a safe and clean life, eat gourmet food, go out, wear pretty things, and live a luxurious life… all at the expense of someone else," reads the text on the illustration above. "I have an idea. I'll become a refugee." //
This subverts the original message and the original purpose of the image. Instead of pity, The caption wants us to be angry at the child in the image for being grasping (wanting gourmet food and luxuries) for being lazy (not earning them but wanting others to pay) and for being manipulative (she can get all she wants by deciding to make herself a refugee).
It is racist because the image is chosen to represent all middle east people. If we didn't know she was Syrian, she could quite easily be Palestinian, Iraqi, Kurdish. And the caption says they are lazy, greedy and manipulative. And the "wanting others to pay" partpresumably means us, so we are portrayed as better, and they as inferior. Which is essence is what racism is - our race is better than your race.
sp1814
/// Anyone notice that the only people who bang on about racism on the AnswerBank are those who complain about people banging on about racism. ///
/// Take a look at the last 50 posts relating to race and/or racism. ///
/// I'm not criticising those who are exercising their freedom of speech - just pointing out that much of the hot air balloon of racism is being kept aloft by those who complain the loudest about its flight path. ///
I will answer this since it is obvious that I am forefront in your mind over this.
I and others go on about racism, simply because the word is constantly thrust upon us if we dare to oppose those who play the race card at each and every occasion, or if we ever happen to criticise anyone belonging to an ethnic minority.
Perhaps it is them who should stop releasing the hot air balloon of racism, then there would be no need for the more outspoken to follow it's flight path.
/// Anyone notice that the only people who bang on about racism on the AnswerBank are those who complain about people banging on about racism. ///
/// Take a look at the last 50 posts relating to race and/or racism. ///
/// I'm not criticising those who are exercising their freedom of speech - just pointing out that much of the hot air balloon of racism is being kept aloft by those who complain the loudest about its flight path. ///
I will answer this since it is obvious that I am forefront in your mind over this.
I and others go on about racism, simply because the word is constantly thrust upon us if we dare to oppose those who play the race card at each and every occasion, or if we ever happen to criticise anyone belonging to an ethnic minority.
Perhaps it is them who should stop releasing the hot air balloon of racism, then there would be no need for the more outspoken to follow it's flight path.
Gromit
/// Every parent would want to get their children out of that. It is a matter of survival, not an economic reason for leaving. A so called artist, in one of the worlds richest countries, labels them economic migrants. He is either very stupid, extremely cynical or more likely, just a xenophobic right wing bigot. ///
Out come the obligatory insults once again.
Most if not all, are economic migrants and not refugees escaping from a war torn land, why else do they choose to walk the length of Europe, instead of settling in the first safe country to arrive at?
/// The Syrian girl did not choose the USA and Russia to stage a proxy war in her country making it an hell
hole. ///
It was an 'hell hole' long before the USA and Russia ever got involved.
/// Every parent would want to get their children out of that. It is a matter of survival, not an economic reason for leaving. A so called artist, in one of the worlds richest countries, labels them economic migrants. He is either very stupid, extremely cynical or more likely, just a xenophobic right wing bigot. ///
Out come the obligatory insults once again.
Most if not all, are economic migrants and not refugees escaping from a war torn land, why else do they choose to walk the length of Europe, instead of settling in the first safe country to arrive at?
/// The Syrian girl did not choose the USA and Russia to stage a proxy war in her country making it an hell
hole. ///
It was an 'hell hole' long before the USA and Russia ever got involved.
AOG
We are not discussing ALL refugees, we are discussing this individual piece of artwork. I believe it is racist for the reasons I state above. So far you have not given your reasons for thinking it is not racist (if that is your view). I look forward to you answering the question, and your argument in support of it.
While Syria was not a model country, it was not an hell hole before 2011. There were not hundreds of thousands trying to escape before 2013. The 7.9 million Syrians displaced from their homes is a result of the civil war which has been due to the meddling of foreign countries (Russia, US, Israel and most of the Arab States).
We are not discussing ALL refugees, we are discussing this individual piece of artwork. I believe it is racist for the reasons I state above. So far you have not given your reasons for thinking it is not racist (if that is your view). I look forward to you answering the question, and your argument in support of it.
While Syria was not a model country, it was not an hell hole before 2011. There were not hundreds of thousands trying to escape before 2013. The 7.9 million Syrians displaced from their homes is a result of the civil war which has been due to the meddling of foreign countries (Russia, US, Israel and most of the Arab States).
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