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We do not have a national police force in our country (the UK).
We have regional police authorities which are different in England, Wales Scotland and NI. So the Union Jack is not even the appropriate flag.
The thin blue line badge is not banned because muslims might be offended. That is just the usual Express/Mail ***. It is not allowed because the piluce have a strict dress code.
We have regional police authorities which are different in England, Wales Scotland and NI. So the Union Jack is not even the appropriate flag.
The thin blue line badge is not banned because muslims might be offended. That is just the usual Express/Mail ***. It is not allowed because the piluce have a strict dress code.
But this isn't the Union Flag, its an altered version of it, which for a start is not appropriate, secondly, for some people at least it signifies a message which is not about mourning fallen comrades or national pride.
"As a retired officer I wear it partially because to me personally it illustrates the fact that the thin blue line is getting thinner across many parts of the country due to job cuts."
the badge is not sold in support of fallen officers but, according to the website which sells them
"These badges are worn by Police Officers around the world to signify their part in the “Thin Blue Line“.
It is generally agreed that the badges represent good and evil in the world – with the only thing standing between them is the “Thin Blue Line” of Law Enforcement."
They do make a 20% donation to COPS for every badge sold.
the website https:/
So no, I don't think this badge is appropriate to be worn on uniform
"As a retired officer I wear it partially because to me personally it illustrates the fact that the thin blue line is getting thinner across many parts of the country due to job cuts."
the badge is not sold in support of fallen officers but, according to the website which sells them
"These badges are worn by Police Officers around the world to signify their part in the “Thin Blue Line“.
It is generally agreed that the badges represent good and evil in the world – with the only thing standing between them is the “Thin Blue Line” of Law Enforcement."
They do make a 20% donation to COPS for every badge sold.
the website https:/
So no, I don't think this badge is appropriate to be worn on uniform
// What are your feelings on uniforms being adapted to fit in with certain religious practices? //
There is not one single uniform, there are variations of the design but all follow a strict criteria. A dog handlers uniform will be different from a desk sergeant, but it will conform to the overall code. So a uniform that includes a headscarf is permissible, but a Pakistan Independence Day flag is not.
I am conflicted on religious dress though. I don't think they should bring their religion to work with them, but we do want a police force that is representative of all the country. I grudgingly have to accept it.
There is not one single uniform, there are variations of the design but all follow a strict criteria. A dog handlers uniform will be different from a desk sergeant, but it will conform to the overall code. So a uniform that includes a headscarf is permissible, but a Pakistan Independence Day flag is not.
I am conflicted on religious dress though. I don't think they should bring their religion to work with them, but we do want a police force that is representative of all the country. I grudgingly have to accept it.
THECORBYLOON
/// "What are your feelings on uniforms being adapted to fit in with certain religious practices?" like an RAF Chaplain for example? ///
No problem with that,
The RAF being the UK's airforce, provide Christian Chaplins, since it is a Christian country, they wear the RAF uniform along with specific emblems and they also wear the traditional 'Dog Collar' instead of the normal black tie. One wouldn't expect any different.
The British military forces are also served by "tri-service chaplains" from other world faiths, including Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, and Sikh. The RAF also has an honorary Jewish chaplain, Rabbi Malcolm Weisman, who holds the position of Senior Jewish Chaplain to HM Forces
/// "What are your feelings on uniforms being adapted to fit in with certain religious practices?" like an RAF Chaplain for example? ///
No problem with that,
The RAF being the UK's airforce, provide Christian Chaplins, since it is a Christian country, they wear the RAF uniform along with specific emblems and they also wear the traditional 'Dog Collar' instead of the normal black tie. One wouldn't expect any different.
The British military forces are also served by "tri-service chaplains" from other world faiths, including Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, and Sikh. The RAF also has an honorary Jewish chaplain, Rabbi Malcolm Weisman, who holds the position of Senior Jewish Chaplain to HM Forces
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/// There is not one single uniform, there are variations of the design but all follow a strict criteria. A dog handlers uniform will be different from a desk sergeant, but it will conform to the overall code. So a uniform that includes a headscarf is permissible, but a Pakistan Independence Day flag is not. ///
An adaptation of a uniform that fits in with the wearers occupation is acceptable, but not a headscarf or turban etc, which only fits in with the wearer's religion.
/// but we do want a police force that is representative of all the country. I grudgingly have to accept it. ///
I don't know why, the British Police Uniform is known the world over, can't see why certain groups in our own country fail to recognise it for what it is, The British Police Service.
If a person has some objection regarding the uniform that goes with the job, then it is their prerogative not to join that particular career.
How can we possibly have a police service that is representative of all the country, if some choose to wear a different uniform?
Or perhaps we should have different law enforcement services, for each and every ethnic minority group in this country, along with different style uniforms in which to recognise them?
/// There is not one single uniform, there are variations of the design but all follow a strict criteria. A dog handlers uniform will be different from a desk sergeant, but it will conform to the overall code. So a uniform that includes a headscarf is permissible, but a Pakistan Independence Day flag is not. ///
An adaptation of a uniform that fits in with the wearers occupation is acceptable, but not a headscarf or turban etc, which only fits in with the wearer's religion.
/// but we do want a police force that is representative of all the country. I grudgingly have to accept it. ///
I don't know why, the British Police Uniform is known the world over, can't see why certain groups in our own country fail to recognise it for what it is, The British Police Service.
If a person has some objection regarding the uniform that goes with the job, then it is their prerogative not to join that particular career.
How can we possibly have a police service that is representative of all the country, if some choose to wear a different uniform?
Or perhaps we should have different law enforcement services, for each and every ethnic minority group in this country, along with different style uniforms in which to recognise them?
You have already agreed Chaplains wear a different uniform and there are Chaplains for the various faiths in the UK so why not accept that there are variations allowed for members of those faiths
Are you suggesting that only Christians or those with no faith should be allowed to join the police or HMF?
Are you suggesting that only Christians or those with no faith should be allowed to join the police or HMF?
THECORBYLOON
/// If you have no problem with a Chaplain wearing a different uniform, why would you object to a variation in the uniform for adherents of that Chaplain's faith? ///
Simply because I wouldn't wish to see certain member's of the Armed Forces wearing a large Crucifix around their necks, for instance.
/// If you have no problem with a Chaplain wearing a different uniform, why would you object to a variation in the uniform for adherents of that Chaplain's faith? ///
Simply because I wouldn't wish to see certain member's of the Armed Forces wearing a large Crucifix around their necks, for instance.
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