Portugal - Is This The Implementation Of The Brezhnev Doctrine?

[Khandro]

[ichkeria]

He doesn't do himself any favours at the start by complaining about the replacement of Silvio Berlusconi. I'd be inclined to exclaim "Result!" myself :-)

[naomi24]

Good for him! I like him!!!

[Jackdaw33]

He is so right. The Brezhnev doctrine, the right of the USSR to interfere in the affairs of other countries in the Soviet bloc if they didn't like the way things were going, was used to justify the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968. The EU doctrine seems to be chillingly similar.

[retrocop]

Well my vote kept the likes of Corbyn running us back into bankrupcy but at a cost. I would prefer this man at the helm but that's tactics :-(

[ichkeria]

The Brezhnev doctrine, of course, was only dreamed up AFTER the invasion of Czechoslovakia.
The invasion we are seeing here, if we want to use these terms, is one OF the EU not BY the EU. The big difference between the EU and the Warsaw Pact countries is that people are clambering to enter the former, whereas they were desperate, many of them, to leave the latter, so the whole dynamic is different. The latter's attempt to keep people in proved more effective than the EU's attempts to manage its own popularity.
Still, Nigel is an entertaining and charismatic speaker if nothing else.

[naomi24]

//The Brezhnev doctrine, of course, was only dreamed up AFTER the invasion of Czechoslovakia. //

Dreamed up - or realised?

[Khandro]

I think the point that the E. Union has become so displaced from its original objectives and now seeks self-survival at any cost, including the abandonment of the democratic principles we have fought as a country so dearly for, could not be expressed more clearly.

[tonyav]

naomi24
Good for him! I like him!!!

Same here, naomi.
The sooner were out of the EU the better imo.

[naomi24]

I agree.

[-Talbot-]

He has his own show starting on LBC Sunday at 10pm

[Jackdaw33]

This clip deserves a much wider audience. Clearly he is not the beer-swilling, fag-smoking loony his detractors would have us believe.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"I think the point that the E. Union has become so displaced from its original objectives...".

A week or so ago a thread was opened with a a link to a Mail on Sunday column by Peter Hitchens. Ichkeria, who thinks that any conservative opinion can only be explained by malice or mental disorder - possibly both, described the column as a "rant". Probably true in the main because the intent of the column (I'm unacquainted with it and the MoS, by the way) is probably for the junior Hitch to let of steam a bit about a few hobby horses. However, if Ichkeria had persevered to the end of the column he would have found a lucid and cogently argued case (with sources) proposing that the EEC (as it was then) always had political objectives to which the touted economic ones were subordinated..

[Old_Geezer]

Maybe so, but in the UK at least these were not made clear until after the vote to stay in: so as far as the public here are concerned they were not part of the original approved deal and thus a diversion from what had been approved; imposed against the collective will of the people.

[ichkeria]

I don't recall reading any articles by Peter Hitchens within the last week: mistaken identity I think

[Svejk]

Life's so unfair at times. Lefty would love to '*** Farage off' and defend the beloved EU.
But here we have a right wing president conniving with the EU to keep a left wing majority out of power.
What to do, what to do?

[Jackdaw33]

You only have to read as far as s. 2 of the EEC Act 1972 to read that in any case of conflict between EEC law and UK law, EEC law shall take precedence.

Hence the fierce opposition from Enoch Powell et al.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"I don't recall reading any articles by Peter Hitchens within the last week: mistaken identity I think".

Mistook you for Andy Hughes, Ichkeria. Apologies for the understandable but embarrassing confusion.

[vetuste_ennemi]

"in the UK at least these were not made clear until after the vote to stay in".

This deception is the point Hitchens was making, OG. And the reason for my reference to him.

[Hypognosis]

I cannot find anything resembling a backstory for whatever Farage's speech is about. I tried "eu portugal overruled" but got nothing from 2015.

Some search terms or a story link would help, Khandro.

How come you others all know what this is about? All on UKIP's press team? (Except Itchy, of course).

[janbee]

I like Mr Farage . I want out out out of the vile and corrupt EU asap... the day before tomorrow would suit me fine.