Cosmetic Is All It Will Be, So Thats That Then...no It Is !

[bazwillrun]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/08/uk-could-leave-eu-unless-it-overhauls-rules-says-philip-hammond

They have no intention, now or ever, of making any permanent reforms...

They will make a few concessions to try and fool us into staying in and then once theyve conned us, the screw for total control over us will start turning as quick as they can make it turn...

[Gromit]

That is the expectation.

Tuesdays list of demands will not be earth shattering and will have been draw up with the expectation that the EU can agree to them. After a lot of noisey distractions, Cameron will have his demands met, and will claim to have won us a better deal.

Whether the public believes that, remains to be seen.

[jourdain2]

I think everyone expects (and knows in their hearts) that it will be a cosmetic blurring job. As the OP suggests, once we vote to stay in even there concessions will be shelved as 'inconvenient at the moment' or words to that effect. I want to see forthright demands, but even that presupposes that the EU mandarins would carry-through any agreement, a highly dubious supposition . I think most people think we have reached 'point-non-plus' before Dave even starts any 'hard' talking.

[jourdain2]

^^^ 'even then, any'... keyboard is way behind my fingers tonight.

[tonyav]

No I can't see Dave coming back with anything of any significance.

[bazwillrun]

it doesent matter what he comes back with from the eussrs side of things....
they will be temporary delays to their ultimate plans of complete control over us our laws, our tax, , military, every damn thing...you cant have an empire unless you control everything in it....

[Gromit]

Damn! Life is sooo complicated.

We hate Europe and love the Tories.
But the Tory leadership are campaigning to stay IN the EU.

Then, we hate Labour.
But the Labour leadership wants out us OUT of the EU.

No wonder this is such an headache for the rabid right Corbyn haters. :-)

[Svejk]

No worries here, gromit. Hate the EU, hate Corbyn and hate Cameron too.
Actually, hate is too strong a word. Not sure that I hate anything/anyone.

[Gromit]

Svejk,
You hate Corbyn. Yes you do. :-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

"Not sure that I hate...anyone"?
Man up (is that the current chant?), Svejk.
Do you want me to send you my list?

[janbee]

I'm very anti EU in any way. I want 100% out asap. That £55milllion a DAY , A DAY ! we so generously give tothe bullying EU could do so much good here in this country.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Vote for or against EU? There's a large percentage of our population which enjoys the largesse of Britain's welfare state and benefits from the malformed moral concepts which are represented by the ironically named European Court of Human Rights.
The demographic is depressing: the parasites and their supporters outnumber honest people.



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[vetuste_ennemi]

Life's a *** and then you die.

[bazwillrun]

"for the rabid right"

you mean like the rabid lefties, we see on here for instance, or is it only the right youre allowed to apply that kind of invective to ?

[ToraToraTora]

out ASAP, simples.

[Gromit]

Rabid:
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bazwillrun
Jezza Cor Binladen is a huge threat to this country and its security...god help us if he ever got real power

This leftie lunatic was quite happy in support of the armed campaign of oirish republicans fighting against us in Britain, but obviously has a problem supporting the defence of this country and its nuclear deterrent....

He is a walking talking schite storm....and a dangerous one at that //

[jourdain2]

It's going to take a publicity storm to get us out - my kids have never known anything else and think I'm slightly barmy in insisting that we'll be fine. Hope to goodness that only British-born, registered voters are allowed to vote.

Looks as if Dave is trying to pre-empt the worst news from Europe by calling an early referendum in June. Orange alert!!!!