19Th Teenager Killed In London This Year, Proof That The Reduction In Stop And Search Does Not Work.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/02/inquiry-launched-after-teenager-stabbed-to-death-in-north-london

/// In an interview in September Haydon said that rising knife crime was being caused by a cocktail of a reduction in stop and search, increased sales on the dark web of weapons such as the foot-long “zombie knife”, and a burgeoning culture of youth violence. ///

[Baldric]

From the Link

///The Met commissioner, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, has spoken of a rise in violence and controversially *ordered an increase* in the use of stop and search tactics in certain London boroughs.///

[youngmafbog]

Youth violence is nothing new.

Stop and search is a good weapon to tackle the issue; providing it is used correctly.

[Gromit]

Stop and Search is a difficult tactic to evaluate.
The Home Secretary says it leads to very few arrests and is bad for police/public relations because nearly everyone stopped is innocent.

That may be true, but it is impossible to quantify how many thugs it deterred from carrying a knife because there was a chance they might be caught. Unfortunately, because there is no data, the statistician and the bureaucrats have deemed it a poor tactic, counter-productsve, and too costly.

Perps with this new data that homicides and knife crime has increased since stop and search was reduced, they might have a rethink.

[THECORBYLOON]

Was there a low rate of stop and search in 2008 when twenty-three teenagers in London were stabbed to death?

[sp1814]

AOG

Can you please explain how this is proof that the reduction in stop and search is responsible for the increase in knife crime?

I ask, because the reduction started in 2011, and since then knife crime has been falling, but this year it increased.

So can we be sure of a direct causal relationship between the two?