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ToraToraTora | 14:22 Sat 12th Dec 2015 | News
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35065282
You all know I'm a Tory but as a council estate lad myself I find this a bit vindictive. I can see what the government are trying to do but I think giving councils carte blanche to boot people out after 5 years is fundamentally wrong. So Dave, take it from a supporter, quash this silliness now.
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So if a council tenant won a million on the lottery they should still be allowed to keep their council home?

Or if they are found sub letting the home, or spend a lot of time in prison, they should keep the home?

It is just giving councils flexibility if circumstances change that all.

Nobody is going to get "booted out" for no reason at all.
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VHG:
"So if a council tenant won a million on the lottery they should still be allowed to keep their council home?" - of course not, don't be obtuse.

"Or if they are found sub letting the home, or spend a lot of time in prison, they should keep the home?" - again don't be silly, did you just look around for conrtary examples?

"It is just giving councils flexibility if circumstances change that all." - too much power to the idiots in our town halls, I can see this being misused, beyond the rare cases you cite above.

"Nobody is going to get "booted out" for no reason at all. " - yes but the "reasons" are undefined and prone to abuse.
Is that the only issue TTT?
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is what the only issue?
But people who have won vast fortunes (or earned it like Susan Boyle) can and do stay in their council house, often choosing to buy it a discount but not always.

Is it right that a large council house should continue to be occupied by a single person when the children have flown the nest? People in private accommodation often have no choice but to move when this happens as they can't afford the rent even when they are working. People who have bought their own homes often have to sell up and downsize or rent when their circumstances change or have their homes repossessed.

Council housing is subsidised and as such should be allocated to those in genuine need for the length of time they need it.
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"Is it right that a large council house should continue to be occupied by a single person when the children have flown the nest? " - no it is not. and there are valid reasons but giving a bank sheet of powers to councils to basically make up an excuse to boot people out after 5 years is wrong. I can see this being misused by the cliques we find in some local authorities to, for example, give their friends the housing by booting out those they don't want etc.
TTT I understood that people were not being ejected and excluded from living in a council house, it's all about downsizing them when the circumstances change. I am also a Tory and grew up in a council house and I remember there were people changing houses in the street when, for instance, family leaves home and swapping 3 bed house for 2 bed house to make way for a family. It should be sympathetically done and a suitable property found in the same area but with the pressures on housing these days something should be done to make family houses available.
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I agree TTT ! We are as one on this.

I meet lots of people who are in their 40's and 50's, who never left home, whose parents have now died and are still living in the houses where they were born and brought up. Its not a bit vindictive... its a lot vindictive.

If there is a shortage of council housing, and there plainly is, and we all know why that is, then build more !
I also agree TTT.
I can see the argument in favour, and I am not against fixed tenancies, but I can't see this working and it would be very unsettling and divisive.
jesus mikey I dont think I have met anyone aged 50 who is living in their parents home ....
Fixed 15 year tenancies only in my area, that has been the rule with our only source of social housing, the housing association, for the last 3 years.
The 'next door' council has just 5 four bedroom houses in it's entire stock. All but one is occupied by a single elderly tenant who has been there on their own since the children moved out. That has to be addressed.
I think there is a different need now and councils need to respond to it. My parents and us kids (and my husband’s parents and him and his sibs) went into council housing because the houses we were living in (private rentals) were condemned. There was no bathroom, no hot water, no heating and only outside toilets. My husbands family shared their toilet with two other families. There was no chance that either family would ever have been able to buy a house or flat or afford private rental. I know things aren’t perfect now but i do think that circs are not as bad as they were then.
No other renters are guaranteed a home for life. Why should council tenants be given it? I am the granddaughter of lifelong council tenants. When their children, my mum and my uncle, left home my grandparents moved to a 1 bed flat as is fair and right.
My sister's MIL lives alone in 3bed council house while my sister is squashed into a tiny and expensive privately rented house with her 3 kids because there are no council properties available. I agree more council houses need to be built, but meanwhile we need an initiative that the Tories have mooted. I am no Tory by the way.
I think a "home for life" was fair enough for the immediate post war generation.
Tora -you are SO brave. To admit to being a Tory.
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