Bishop Luigi Padovese Beheaded In Turkey

[Khandro]

This is hardly 'news' but it is new to me;
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e55_1287348844
Do you think if an Imam had received such a fate it would have escaped my attention? Does anyone remember the media being flooded with reports of this atrocity?

[Khandro]

[Khandro]

The totally deranged Merkel now wants to bring Turkey into the EU

[bazwillrun]

the single most dangerous person in europe....the eussr couldnt care less who it rules , its all about numbers...

[hc4361]

It did happen, the BBC reported it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10228730

The killer was sentenced to 15 years.

[hc4361]

Khandro, this wasn't Turkey officials that killed the Bishop. It was a lone man who had been receiving treatment for psychological disorders.

Don't judge me by my English men Jimmy Saville and Peter Sutcliffe.

[vetuste_ennemi]

HC, please develop your idea of random violence perpetrated by the mentally unstable.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Intelligent analysis is a rare talent.

[vetuste_ennemi]

The numerical part of the HC sobriquet is not a prime number, is it?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The point misunderstood by the OP is that morality has (by some, perhaps many) been redefined: not the traditional idea of caring for those suffering and trying to protect them from harm, and applied d equally to all, but a superior concept. This elevated morality has a primary postulate: "What moral posture improves my status among my peers?".
If it were Scrabble the death of a Palestinian child would count as 10, but the decapitation of a Middle Eastern Christian as 1.

[Khandro]

hc; My point (and that of the Austrian MP) is not that it wasn't reported at all, but that it was reported minimally. It has just come to my attention by this recent speech in the Austrian parliament. I regularly watch English and German tv news and read several newspapers online; I could have been travelling at the time, but I have no recall of the coverage that such an event and trial should have warranted.

My question in the OP is; do most people remember a large amount of coverage, not to go online to find it, as you have obviously done.

[ichkeria]

"If it were Scrabble the death of a Palestinian child would count as 10, but the decapitation of a Middle Eastern Christian as 1. "

I think that is a self-defeating road to go down :-)
Shall we start adding to this thread a series of atrocities that were reported in the press but didn't cause meltdown of the 24 hour news services ?
I am sure we all would have our favourites

[hc4361]

I don't remember it, Khandro, but then again, why would I? I do remember the Catholic priest who was murdered in his church some years ago, but that was local to me at the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/643822.stm

I also remember the British woman that was beheaded in Tenerife because I had just got home from Tenerife when it happened.

I often think of two elderly sisters who kept a corner shop and were murdered at Christmas nearly 30 years ago because I knew them. Their murderer has never been found.

The sad fact is there are too many dreadful murders around the world for them all to have an impact on me.

My point about this murderer's mental health is that as far as the reports show he wasn't acting on behalf of any terrorist organisation and it was believed his mental health may have been a factor. I have not and would not suggest that everyone with mental health issues are a danger to society.

[Khandro]

hc; // he wasn't acting on behalf of any terrorist organisation//

Doesn't the fact that as he committed the murder, he shouted "Allahu Akbar!" give you a clue?

[hc4361]

No, there is no evidence whatsoever that that man was or is linked to any terrorist organisation.

[Khandro]

hc; He was linked to, and carrying out an act in the name of, an organization called 'Islamic extremism', but that isn't the point. The point I and Ewald Stadler is making is that this and other similar murders to Christian clergy are carried out in Turkey with little reporting either in Turkey or even in the West.

[ichkeria]

Don't you mean "even in Turkey"?
You'd expect more coverage there as they are events that happen in that country.
Sadly a murder committed by a religious fanatic in a faraway country of which we know little is not really going to stop the press here

[ichkeria]

And can't you dredge up a more recent one, if it's so common :-)

[Khandro]

http://shoebat.com/2015/03/27/ignore-what-the-media-is-telling-you-turkey-is-already-killing-christians/

[ichkeria]

Sadly, it looks as though the video is no longer available.

More effective in making their case would be a series of links to responsible media outlets
But then, most of these attacks are never reported, apparently, so we're in the realm of "your word against mine" ...