Is It Time Our Charity Began At Home?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35188146
Can we stop giving money to foreigners and use it to do some proper flood defences? We should also suspend EU payments for at least 1 year and add that to the pot.

[mikey4444]

As this thread has descended down to the usual racist and xenophobic level, I shall retire. But don't despair folks...... anti-muslim debates are like London buses....there will be another one along in a minute !

[viv41]

Good best answer TTT ....

[ToraToraTora]

fair enough mikey but if there was no ammo it would not be getting utilised, would it?

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// As this thread has descended down to the usual racist and xenophobic level, I shall retire. ///

The question put was "Is It Time Our Charity Began At Home"?

So didn't you expect it to be about our charity being spent abroad?

But no, it is the apologists usual weapon to bring into play the the racist and xenophobic cards, hoping that they will somehow frighten some not to speak their minds, so as to somehow stifle further debate on the subject?

[THECORBYLOON]

What has the number of women wearing hijabs got to do with spending more money in this country then?

[retrocop]

Mikey
//anti-muslim debates are like London buses....there will be another one along in a minute !//

Don't mention London buses. I saw three different threads in as many weeks with regard to London buses (not Swansea) on AB recently. Surely you remember the occupants and subject matter don't you ?

[Canary42]

////usual weapon to bring into play the the racist and xenophobic cards, hoping that they will somehow frighten some not to speak their minds,////

But our brave phoney patriot keeps going - what a hero.

[mushroom25]

//What has the number of women wearing hijabs got to do with spending more money in this country then? //

only bordeaux can answer that with certainty but probably a clumsy way of highlighting a disparity of spending. in 2014 the then government pledged £2.3bn for flood defences over the next 6 years. by comparison, the same amount is spent EVERY YEAR keeping illegal immigrants in this country.

[retrocop]

Mikey
Afore ye Go

//Mush...Swansea is hardly "remotest Wales"

We are a busy, multicultural City, with 3 Colleges and a population of about 239,000. In the 2011 Census, Muslims accounted for 4.8% of the population of Britain, and that includes Wales and Southall.

(By the way, have a look at the Wiki entry for Southall. Only 13.3% of the population appears to be Muslim....35% is listed as Christian !)

I just wish some people here on AB would get the racial and cultural make up of Great Britain into the right proportion. //


Mosques in Swansea CITY =4
Mosques in London Borough of Merton = 13
http://londonmosques.co.uk/merton

[Old_Geezer]

The fact that the system is not perfect is no reason to demand charity is never to be offered outside one's own home. Nor does having a regional disaster mean we are inevitably incapable of coping with it without outside help. One cannot rationally use the occurrence of one as an excuse to attack the other. There seems to be a difficulty experienced by some to separate different issues. It must be very confusing for them, and they have my sympathy.

[Mamyalynne]

You have put that into words far better than I could, here we have a disaster and the emergency services, troops and volunteers swing into action.

In many places people are hundreds if not more miles from help with little or no infrastructure, absolutely a different situation.

It seems to me that unless you strongly side with one avenue of thought you are seen to be a keen supporter of the opposite view - nothing could be further from the truth.

We are blessed with charitable help at every turn in this country , yes some fall through the net but overall , there is help out there.

[ichkeria]

If it rains a lot it's going to flood and no about of whining about charity beginning at home or people getting off buses in hijabs(!) is going to alter that :-)
In fact we're rather lucky with our weather compared to some

[Mamyalynne]

Often hard to see why certain things are brought into a conversation isn't it - still pondering how Nadiya who won Bake Off and was born in London got brought in.

Perhaps she was flooded out this time.

[jomifl]

Glad to hear that chief mumbojumbo has Rolls Royces and not Mercs.

[Mamyalynne]

I'm sure that's deep and meaningful.

[Zacs-Master]

People showing their very ignorant true colours mamya. But. To all those who've said 'we can afford both' (I.e. Foreign aid AND flood defences)....... So.....why aren't we? You're all seeing the major flooding hotspots but those outside Yorks and Lancs aren't seeing the damage in smaller towns like Brighouse and Mirfield.

[Svejk]

If it's any consolation to the people flooded out, those aerial images of the flooding come from an Indian satellite that they pad foir.

[jomifl]

Mamya...it is..... Foreign aid isn't a sackful of cash to be spent on whatever. It is usually more like credit to buy stuff from....Britain... like Rolls Royces :-)

[Zacs-Master]

Not the one's I've seen.

[jomifl]

Svejk..thank god(shiva) we now know where the flooding is