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He Puts A New Meaning On Dumb !

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bazwillrun | 13:43 Sun 17th Jan 2016 | News
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Dumb and Dumber..and Jezza

A soon to be released comedy blockbuster...this movie will have you splitting your sides..youll be laughing so much youll be screaming for a doctor...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-says-labour-could-support-building-more-trident-submarines-but-without-nuclear-a6817246.html

Does he understand what the subs are for, or is he really as dumb as most people are giving him credit for...
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The whole point of Trident,surely,is to have them permanently deployed in one of four nuclear submarines on maritime patrol 365/24/7. If it kicks off we have a nuclear sub that is capable of traveling 40 times around the world and can stay sub surface without finding a base to refuel. That is the whole point of the deterrent. They are prepared all the time with nuclear reaction.
//Has the country move to where anyone who doesn't want to kill people is laughed at .Maybe if we had had people like him in the past this would be a safer world now . //

No it's where it has always been. Kill me and you're dead also.
I hear that sales of popguns are shooting upwards.
Could not see J C taking us to war could you .

Being a Peacenik only works if everyone else is suffering from it at the same time.
Even the longest journey starts with the first step
Gawd are they teaching Corbyn to walk now?
It is totally pointless having half of a deterrent, if as Corbyn has said the missiles will not be deployed then it is a complete waste of money building more weapon platforms.
As Corbyn doesn't seem to grasp the strategic roles the UK armed forces are tasked with he should purchase The Last Ship by William Brinkley.
As he appears to live in a fantasy utopia he could do no worst than read this fictional book.It outlines,in simple terms,the need to have nuclear ready vessels at all times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ship_%28novel%29
Vulcan
As I said at 1353 the strategic use of Nuclear Submarines as far as Corbyn sees it is to keep the Unions happy.It is strategic he keeps his paymasters happy without actually considering the defense of the country he aspires to lead.
“So - building more Subs but not more Missiles is utterly sensible. ….but procuring just the subs seems the right thing to do at present.”

Probably agree, sunny-d. But:

“Whether we then fit the Tridents into the Vanguards is another debate - …”

A debate that seems unlikely to gain much air time:

“Labour could back the construction of new Trident submarines but not arm them with nuclear missiles, Jeremy Corbyn has said.”

“[The submarines] don’t have to have nuclear warheads on them,” Mr Corbyn told the Andrew Marr Show.”

The man is a buffoon. If he wants to pursue a policy of no Trident (or replacement) then fair enough. The electorate will have its say in 2020. But to suggest that we go ahead and build the submarines with plans to leave them empty is about as dopey as it gets. Oh, hang on though, I forgot – he needs to support of the Unions (whose members will build the submarines) so maybe not so daft after all. Get the taxpayer to fund jobs for people who will build billions of pounds worth of useless kit.

Poor man. Torn between his ideology his party's need for cash !!

"This man is certifiable, building more submarines but don't equip them with missiles. We could take this a stage further, build more aircraft carriers but save money by not putting aircraft on them."

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/24/prince-of-wales-aircraft-carrier-makes-little-sense-report

Not just him then.
"No we don't ... we are no longer a useful or important player in the global nuclear sandpit ... just a faded old hasbeen trading on past glories and unwilling to face the harsh truth of 21st century realpolitik ... " - ah the anti British having fun again. Lisen sunshine we can still fire nukes doesn't matter what you think it's still hurt.
Listen sunshine we can still fire nukes doesn't matter what you think it'll still hurt.
The ONLY reason the UK persists with pointless and phenomenally costly Nuclear weapons is to secure our seat on the United Nations Security Council and keep our Veto.

Nuclear weapons are completely useless defensively. Al Qaeda, ISIS etal know we have a Nuclear option, but they also know we will NEVER use it.

Putin assasinates people in London, does what the feck he likes in the World, because he knows this country will NEVER use our Nuclear options. Completey useless and vastly expensive.

The only reason Nuclear Disarmourment is a vote loser, is because so many jobs depend on it. Mostly in Labour voting areas.

That is not to say Corbyn's fudge is credible, it isn't.
"Putin assasinates people in London, does what the feck he likes in the World, because he knows this country will NEVER use our Nuclear options. Completey useless and vastly expensive.

Well, we aren't going to nuke Moscow because Putin assassinates people.
Plainly. If that was the case, "goodbye world"
That is not the reason for having nuclear weapons. But the deterrent is meant to be there to prevent a nuclear war, odd as it may seem. In other words, one side with missiles will supposedly not use them if they know that they will also be zapped. That is why the Russians got so twitchy about Star Wars and SDI: the fear that their missile launches would be detected and zapped too soon.
So goes the thinking anyway. But it doesn't seem a good idea to me to remove ours.
we'd use them is we had to.
By "SDI" I meant the forward defence shield, or whatever it was called. SDI and Star Wars being the same thing of course
I bet the Russians know exactly where our submarines are, and could disable them in minutes.

A total waste of money that we cannot afford.

I don't support Jeremy C on much, but I would unilaterally disarm now given the choice.
we seem to have turned this into an anti British fest.

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