Frightening, Sickening, But The Politicians Across Europe Are The Ones Responsible For This.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3426685/Nazi-daggers-SS-hats-hangman-s-noose-night-patrol-Soldiers-Odin-neo-Nazi-led-vigilantes-vowing-Europe-s-women-safe-migrant-sex-attacks.html

What can be done before all this becomes out of control?

[whiskeryron]

This is precisely how the Nazi party started out in the 1930s & very quickly took hold in Germany, these extreme right wing gangs take on a theme that the populace find difficult to accept then stir it up until it becomes out of control. We must for the sake of world peace not let it happen again. If The Sons of Odin want to help to put things right throughout Europe then let them tackle the true cause of unrest, take your flags & weapons & march in your jackboots to where I.S operates & sort them out then you will be saving not only the women of Europe but the evil armies of a twisted Islam that no sane world wants.

[jackthehat]

/// I would not turn my nose up at any group who were prepared to take matters in their own hands, so as to make the streets safe once more///

I can agree that point but so often the groups concerned consist of thugs who are really just wanting an excuse to crack a few heads.

[Peter Pedant]

// Thus far even the police can't pin any charges on them!! No crime. No story. Every country in Europe

spoken likr s true policeman
they say they can do nothing and stand around shrugging their shoulders

retro has also previously said that vigilante groups are OK
which I always thought was iffy since a non-perv was kicked to death in Newton Heath a few years ago. The crowd thought he was and were terribly sorry horrified even to find he was just a disabled man - more disabled after they had finished hur hur hur - verdict manslaughter

ho hum and the world grinds on

[douglas9401]

Fine Ron, but in the meantime what happens at home?

[Baldric]

///then you will be saving not only the women of Europe but the evil armies of a twisted Islam that no sane world wants///

Why would anyone want to save the evil armies of a twisted Islam that no sane world wants?

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// I can agree that point but so often the groups concerned consist of thugs who are really just wanting an excuse to crack a few heads. ///

Yes but beggars can't be choosers, and if it is rapists heads they are cracking, then all to the good surely?

[jackthehat]

///...if it is rapists heads they are cracking, then all to the good surely?///

The trouble is that there is no guarantee that they will take the trouble to ensure that they have the correct 'criminal'.

[Peter Pedant]

// This is precisely how the Nazi party started out in the 1930s & very quickly took hold in Germany,//

come on WhiskeyROn you were alive then but the Nazi party did not begin by protecting deutche madchen from eastern european assault or any other assault

The Weimar republic was a by word for well good times ( see Goodbye to Berlin ) and Streicher leader of the Brown Shirts erm didnt like women ( but did like other brown shirts )

[anotheoldgit]

whiskeryron

/// If The Sons of Odin want to help to put things right throughout Europe then let them tackle the true cause of unrest, take your flags & weapons & march in your jackboots to where I.S operates & sort them out then you will be saving not only the women of Europe but the evil armies of a twisted Islam that no sane world
wants. ///

We have tried on numerous occasions to sort the foreigners out, and in the meantime our own people are not safe from the enemy within, better for them to protect their own, on their own streets, than fighting on some foreign field.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// The trouble is that there is no guarantee that they will take the trouble to ensure that they have the correct 'criminal'. ///

What do you suggest then, that they wait until some defenceless woman has been fondled, possibly raped,
then report them so they can be then arrested, tried with a possibility of receiving a light sentence?

In the meantime the victim has still suffered along with life long memories of her abuse, No best to keep these creatures off the streets in the first place.

[Peter Pedant]

// What do you suggest then, that they wait until some defenceless woman has been fondled, possibly raped, //

yeah I do actually

I think smacking someone head in and then saying 'well I though he was gonna rape someone' as a defene is doomed

[jackthehat]

As Peter has said...

[viv41]

It's laughable isn't it, these migrant thugs are doing unspeakable things to young women in Germany and yet the Sons of Odin are not allowed to retaliate (according to the do-gooders on here) and do unspeakable things back to the scumbag thugs !!! I know who I would rather have on my side ANY DAY and please don't quote Hitler or the nazis at me - I'm not interested ..... Thank God I'm not a do-gooder !!!

[mikey4444]

These are just thugs AOG, and should be condemned without any qualifying factors....they look very like our own home-grown racist thugs, from the National Front onwards.

[Baldric]

Are they not supposed to protect their own then if the Police are unwilling/unable to do so. They have not committed any offence, the Immigrants have.

[andy-hughes]

viv41 - //It's laughable isn't it, these migrant thugs are doing unspeakable things to young women in Germany and yet the Sons of Odin are not allowed to retaliate (according to the do-gooders on here) and do unspeakable things back to the scumbag thugs !!! I know who I would rather have on my side ANY DAY and please don't quote Hitler or the nazis at me - I'm not interested ..... Thank God I'm not a do-gooder !!! //

It's not about being a 'do-gooder', it's about analysing what is a solution to the problem that will work, as against one that will not.

Simply matching thuggish violence with more thuggish violence under the pretext that reacting with thuggish violence is given a mandate of righteous anger and 'justice' is a flawed concept, and as advised, it simply means that the second lot of thugs move on to be as violent as the first.

That is because their motives are not 'saving society, or 'protecting women'. They are about belonging to a small band of like-minded people who all dress the same, and talk the same, and hit the same, because there is a feeling of belonging and security that helps them deal with their personal inadequacies.

That is never a safe basis for any kind of action - especially when it can so easily result in violence against perfectly innocent people - and that is very often the case. Remember the similar thinkers who could not distinguish between a paediatrician and paedophile?

It is a wrong concept on so many levels. You say you would 'rather have them on your side any day ...' which is fine - but who makes sure they remain on 'your side'? Who speaks for you when they turn on you, because they can?

And if you are 'not interested in Hitler and the Nazis', then you should be. From our history, we can try and avoid making the same mistakes all over again.

[andy-hughes]

PiedPiper15 - //I fervently believe we need these so called thugs to sort things out. //

And what happens if they decide it is people like you who need to be 'sorted out'? Where is your protection from your 'protectors'?

I fervently believe you are utterly wrong in your view.

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - //Are they not supposed to protect their own then if the Police are unwilling/unable to do so. They have not committed any offence, the Immigrants have. //

No - because vigilante law is no law at all.