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What Can The Doctors Strike Achieve !
My large local hospital is effectively closed from 4pm Friday until 4pm Mon. when then ,there are " Doctor's ward rounds ", by which time it's usually too late in the day for patients to be discharged or transferred. As a result the hospital doesn't get back to ' normal ' until the Tuesday. ' Normal ' being a three day week Tues, Wed, Thur.
I'm sorry to to say that the Nhs , like most things run by the state , is an inefficient , albeit necessary organization .
I'm sorry to to say that the Nhs , like most things run by the state , is an inefficient , albeit necessary organization .
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The Doctors' strike will achieve what any strike achieves - it will draw public attention to their grievances.
Whether that will spur the government into action with regard to addressing those grievances is another issue, but that is the intention, and it will achieve its aim in that sense at least.
Whether that will spur the government into action with regard to addressing those grievances is another issue, but that is the intention, and it will achieve its aim in that sense at least.
My daughter once called me very upset, she had been working long hours in A & E and was totally crushed. She was very afraid that if someone seriously injured came in then she would make a terrible mistake with disatrous consequences.
If thats how you want to be treated by a Doctor then disagree with the strike, otherwise see where they are coming from at least to a degree.
And let us not forget the mountain of debt a doctor has to get into to achieve the qualification. They need the extra rates to help pay that off, its that or go abroad. My daughter worked in an Australian hospital as part of her training. She is seriously considering moving out there. You could of course replace her with a foreign doctor you wont understand or has dubious qualifications (any 1/2 decent one wont come here).
The NHS is very poorly run. If it was a business probably 1/2 the staff would be fired (and that includes some doctors). It is bloated with management, has poor communication and cannot develop a computer system for toffee( again - pay peanuts ...)
If thats how you want to be treated by a Doctor then disagree with the strike, otherwise see where they are coming from at least to a degree.
And let us not forget the mountain of debt a doctor has to get into to achieve the qualification. They need the extra rates to help pay that off, its that or go abroad. My daughter worked in an Australian hospital as part of her training. She is seriously considering moving out there. You could of course replace her with a foreign doctor you wont understand or has dubious qualifications (any 1/2 decent one wont come here).
The NHS is very poorly run. If it was a business probably 1/2 the staff would be fired (and that includes some doctors). It is bloated with management, has poor communication and cannot develop a computer system for toffee( again - pay peanuts ...)
\\\My daughter once called me very upset, she had been working long hours in A & E and was totally crushed. She was very afraid that if someone seriously injured came in then she would make a terrible mistake with disatrous consequences.\\
That's on old trick that Drs have used to get their way in a State run medical system..."just wave the shroud" and you will get what you want.
What hours is she working? For how long will this last? Surely she is not alone in A&E, are the others also "totally crushed?" One is at one's peak, aged between 25 and 35 years old, this is a learning curve for you in medicine. If a serious RTA comes in, surely your daughter is not alone.....there must be support staff present.
I have also noticed on the TV that the majority of these banner waving, chanting individuals are mainly women........
We train too many women doctors and that is an inefficient way of staffing a health service.
jno
\\\\perhaps more staff would mean you were less likely to be operated on by someone who's already been working for 10 hours.\\\
Again an emotional post, the sort of operation that a tired junior would have to perform could be easily done by a well lubricated meerkat.
YMG
\\\The NHS is very poorly run. If it was a business probably 1/2 the staff would be fired (and that includes some doctors). It is bloated with management, has poor communication and cannot develop a computer system for toffee( again - pay peanuts ...)\\\
That i agree.
However, things will never change....the doctors don't want it to, the patients certainly don't and the juggernaut of Socialised medicine will rumble on.
My sympathies are with the Politicians of both persuasions.
That's on old trick that Drs have used to get their way in a State run medical system..."just wave the shroud" and you will get what you want.
What hours is she working? For how long will this last? Surely she is not alone in A&E, are the others also "totally crushed?" One is at one's peak, aged between 25 and 35 years old, this is a learning curve for you in medicine. If a serious RTA comes in, surely your daughter is not alone.....there must be support staff present.
I have also noticed on the TV that the majority of these banner waving, chanting individuals are mainly women........
We train too many women doctors and that is an inefficient way of staffing a health service.
jno
\\\\perhaps more staff would mean you were less likely to be operated on by someone who's already been working for 10 hours.\\\
Again an emotional post, the sort of operation that a tired junior would have to perform could be easily done by a well lubricated meerkat.
YMG
\\\The NHS is very poorly run. If it was a business probably 1/2 the staff would be fired (and that includes some doctors). It is bloated with management, has poor communication and cannot develop a computer system for toffee( again - pay peanuts ...)\\\
That i agree.
However, things will never change....the doctors don't want it to, the patients certainly don't and the juggernaut of Socialised medicine will rumble on.
My sympathies are with the Politicians of both persuasions.
The decline in services which have been privatised in the public sector rather goes against your statement re things run by the state. After the railways and the NHS, this week we had the adverse report on the privatised Probation Service. The state does much better on essential public services because it doesn't have greedy shareholders holding the public to ransom.
My posts on this thread reflect my views about privatising the NHS.
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TWR...whoever dave appoints can hardly make a worse job than Hunt !
As the BMA and Hunt appear to be at loggerheads, replacing Hunt would seem to be worth trying.
Like you, I think that its come to a pretty pass when the ruddy Doctors go on strike....only the Tories could have managed that with such expertise.
Nye must be turning in his grave.
As the BMA and Hunt appear to be at loggerheads, replacing Hunt would seem to be worth trying.
Like you, I think that its come to a pretty pass when the ruddy Doctors go on strike....only the Tories could have managed that with such expertise.
Nye must be turning in his grave.
> What Can The Doctors Strike Achieve !
The flipside of the question is "What can the doctors accepting the new working practices achieve?"
The drive is for a "7x24" NHS, but with the same money and same staff as the current NHS.
If put into place this would surely mean that the service on some days and times improves, while the service on other days and times worsens, but overall we'd be no better off than we are now (and possibly a bit worse). A bit like the difference between having a knob of butter in the middle of a piece of toast, or spread all over the surface of the toast - it's the same knob of butter.
I wonder what bad news is being buried elsewhere while this trivia dominates the headlines ...
The flipside of the question is "What can the doctors accepting the new working practices achieve?"
The drive is for a "7x24" NHS, but with the same money and same staff as the current NHS.
If put into place this would surely mean that the service on some days and times improves, while the service on other days and times worsens, but overall we'd be no better off than we are now (and possibly a bit worse). A bit like the difference between having a knob of butter in the middle of a piece of toast, or spread all over the surface of the toast - it's the same knob of butter.
I wonder what bad news is being buried elsewhere while this trivia dominates the headlines ...
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