Welcome Immigrants?

[mrblear]

http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/Nurses-Philippines-India-drafted-Lincolnshire/story-26760911-detail/story.html

[mushroom25]

//Most of these nurses prove to be excellent and many go on to get several promotions. //

yes. but these are the nurses that should be nursing in their own country but more importantly, becoming the trainers that will help create their healthcare professionals of the future. you can't blame them for seeking the better pay in this country, but you can blame a government that won't put money into training and seeks many of its recruits expensively ready-trained by someone else who can ill afford to lose them.

on bbc wm on monday was a report from romania featuring healthcare professionals well past retirement age - in 2 cases, 2 consultants who were well into their eighties - because of the UK's asset stripping policy.

[naomi24]

divebuddy, I know they're well qualified. It's the rest I worry about. I've seen some highly questionable practices.

[Peter Pedant]

dive buddy shows dangerous pinko wet tendencies at times

asset stripping the home country .... well anyway the Filipinas wont stay too long in Lincs where there is a very high immigrant prevalence anyway as a result of the labour intensive market gardening industry

and they quickly move into the cities - where they start at the crap jobs like cas or kids and move to better ones when the opportunity comes up

[naomi24]

divebuddy, the problem is that, unlike those working in most other areas, medical professionals have people's lives in their hands.

[Peter Pedant]

um sorry Nigh
these are nursing professionals and have their own regulation system ( nurses and midwives council ) whjo licences them

for doctors it is the GMC - and they have to pass an entrance exam PLAB. I have never met a Filipino doctor ( or Filipina )

[naomi24]

diveduddy, //There is no reason to think they are any worse (or better|) than our home grown ones. //

That isn't my experience. Most nurses I've encountered of any flavour do a good job and have high standards of hygiene, but those I've encountered that fall short of what I would expect of a nurse have without exception been foreign.

[naomi24]

divebuddy, I wouldn't expect you be able to comment on my personal experiences, but no, most nurses I see are not foreign ones.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// The NHS would have collapsed years ago if it weren't for the foreign staff it employs. ///

Perhaps we would have enough staff of our own to attend to our sick, if the NHS hadn't been ladened down by sheer numbers who came to this country, by Labour's original mass immigration programme?

[tamborine]

Nursing degree course @ £9kpa to earn £20kpa when qualified (eg after 3-4years) does not equate for me.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cost+nursing+degree&ie=UTF-8&;oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

Jnr nurses used to train FREE on lesser salaries & direct from sec mod schools in 1960s. Its too much for youngsters to run up uni debts before they earn.

[mrblear]

Mrs rambler says she worked 48 hours per week for peanuts when she was training in the 60's

[tamborine]

Wrong bd, those who didnt have gce's mostly went into nursing. 3 O levels were the teachers & secretaries.

[lindapalmara]

it seems there are so many Romanian doctors coming over hear that an 82 year old surgeon has to carry on working

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35670034

[mrblear]

You could enter the profession without O levels but you had to sit a written exam set by the hospital.