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Inhumane Treatment? - Anders Breivik

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agchristie | 13:50 Thu 03rd Mar 2016 | News
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Should Anders Breivik be entitled to have contact with other inmates? Do you believe his conditions are being violated?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/02/norway-rejects-anders-breivik-inhuman-prison-conditions-claim
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DB - I will take that as s NO then!

At the end of last year the Norwegian ombudsman's report suggested that his conditions were a problem especially around lasting isolation for example.
who cares what he thinks or what his conditions are like...i couldnt care less how they treat him or what they do with him...the worse the better

scum like him dont care about others yet all of a sudden we are supposed to worry about his plight ..eerrrm i dont think so !!!
Couldn't care less about his 'inhumane' treatment !
He's in one of the few jails in the world softer than ours for a few years jailed by one of the most liberal states on earth. Send the lowlife to Turkey for the rest of his sentence.
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Baz > who cares what he thinks or what his conditions are like

The Norwegian authorities have to care as otherwise they are answerable as in this case.
my short answer to this is....don't know, don't care!
"The Norwegian authorities have to care as otherwise they are answerable as in this case. "

no one is forcing them to care...
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Baz > no one is forcing them to care...

It's not about force it's about obligations. Would you like to see Breivik gain advantages due to prison negligence?
A mass murder who targetted children would undoubtedly be a target for harm by other prisoners, so keeping him apart from them is clearly for his own safety. Perhaps denying him a martyrdom death is what really irks him.

The authorities seem confident that they are complying fully with legislation. I suspect his claim is baseless and is intended to amuse him in his long hours of solitude. Segrating some prisoners is not inhuman, especially in this case when the reason is for his personalsafety.
Yes, I think he should have contact with others. In particular he should be taking his showers with Mr Big - and no soap on a rope.

I still prefer Thailand TTT, they really know how to run a jail.
SO I take it you are all for his personal well being then Gromit?

Why am I not surprised?

/// conditions in prison – where he is serving 21 years for killing 77 people in 2011 – violate his human rights.///

What about the human rights of the 77 people he killed, or does that count for nothing?
This type of enquiry always brings a raft of answers along the lines of - 'Why should Prisoner X have rights, where were the rights of his victims ...'.

That is absolutely understandable, but it is not how the law functions.

In order for law to work to the advantage of a civilised society, it has to put in place its punishments, and then work with them.

In this instance, Mr Breivik's punishment is to lose his liberty - and that brings a raft of problems such as the ones illustrated here.

There has to be a balance struck between Mr Breivik's rights as a prisoner in terms of access to interaction, and his own personal safety given the nature of his crime.

I think, on balance, since interaction with other prisoners would seriously compromise Mr Breivik's safety, and that of other inmates and staff, it is in his own interests that the current level of segregation remains.

It is advised that he does have interaction with prison staff, and in view of the potential reaction of inmates who got within arm's length of his person, Mr Breivik may well be advised to accept that as being the best he is going to get.
If it’s within his ‘human rights’ to choose to compromise his own safety, then yes, his human rights have been violated. However, I don’t believe he should be free to make that choice and expect the prison authorities to protect him.
// SO I take it you are all for his personal well being then Gromit? //

Stop veing a prat ymb.
I am in favour of the law. I am not in favour of letting him be murdered. Not because I am concerted about this digustingly evil person's well being, but because no civilised human being actively encourages another human beings murder. Unless they are sick.
From what I remember, he was sentenced to the max. that Norway can do....25 years. I also recall that he was cleared of being insane !

From what I can see of his prison conditions, they are very far from inhumane, so I am not surprised that the Norwegian authorities have rejected his claim.

What I fail to really understand about this is he must surely to a target for abuse and worse, by other inmates, rather in the manner of how sex offenders are treated here, so why would he want to mix with the others ?

///'Why should Prisoner X have rights, where were the rights of his victims
That is absolutely understandable, but it is not how the law functions.///

I didn't actually suggest he shouldn't have any rights, I was highlighting the fact that he had no regard for the rights of the 77 people he murdered in cold blood.

//why would he want to mix with the others ? //

Maybe he just wants to create waves.
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Gromit > I am not in favour of letting him be murdered. Not because I am concerted about this digustingly evil person's well being, but because no civilised human being actively encourages another human beings murder. Unless they are sick.

Stout defence Gromit.

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