Given The Disastrous Election Results On Thursday...

[Svejk]

...for the Labour Party.
Can anyone guess the best/most common excuse given on Friday?

[Svejk]

Eg, The right-wing press.

[EDDIE51]

If you can predict the future, why not get down to the bookies and put some money on it?

[Svejk]

You don't know me.

[mrs_overall]

Every losing side always trot out the same old platitudes such as "lessons will be learned" etc

P.S. Sweaty, can you predict me the numbers of next Friday's EuroMillions draw please?

[Svejk]

I was hoping for 'the Blairite running dogs of capitalism' type answers.
Sorry, MrsO. It was never going to take a Mystic Meg to predict the looming disaster for Labour.

[jim360]

Here's a couple for you:

- "exaggerating" the scale of the recent scandal over anti-Semitism for political effect;
- failure of the Blairite wing of the Labour party to recognise Corbyn as leader, making him almost more of an opposition than the Conservatives and doing themselves and their party a disservice;
- That the current round of council elections is in comparison to 2012, when the party benefitted from Coalition's unpopularity, setting an unusually high target for success.

The first... well, it's unfortunate or convenient timing, for the Tories, that the anti-Semitism row has only erupted now with the elections so close. Although then again maybe Ken Livingstone shouldn't have opened his big mouth for a change. The second -- Labour is divided but that is its own fault, and if they genuinely can't unite themselves then that's their own stupid fault and I have no sympathy.

The third is a genuine problem. Labour could beat the Tories, in terms of vote share, by maybe 5 or 6 points and still lose a decent number of council seats. That sucks rather. It could make a good night for Labour look awful. Although, more likely, it will just make an already bad day for Labour look worse.

[mrs_overall]

Labour will never stand a chance while that dreadful man Corbyn is their leader

[Peter Pedant]

red ken and that lot

I was gonna add facetiously - international conspiracy of jews
but I fear that I will get 50 000 posts saying - yes ! yes ! that is quite true ....

also I note that muslims/migrants/ jungle camp at Calais/ fear of dark men with moustaches killing us in our beds, has not made a show in this - yet

will we ever know ?

[mushroom25]

just wondered - was the installing of Jeremy Corbyn as labour leader the political equivalent of voting for a ship called boaty mcboatface?

[Jackdaw33]

More like a ship called Titanic.

[Peter Pedant]

hey what about HMS Bounty ?

Hey anyone who reads history out there ? Jackdaw perhaps
I need a parallel with the power struggle 1920-22 between Lenin Stalin and Trotsky - the best man didnt necessarily win that one ( hem hem ) but it was marked by antisemitism innit ? Trotsky was a jew

[Peter Pedant]

hey mushie

d you subscribe to the conspiracy theory that Corby was put in by closet tories who had joined the labour party pro tem ( clutching their ten-pences etc ) just For That Purpose ?

[ToraToraTora]

It was all the fault of a 4 by 2 conspiracy.

[mushroom25]

//Trotsky was a jew//
your parallel power struggle analogy has started off with a political spin from trotsky's opponents - although the family name was bronstein and allegedly they came from jewish stock, none of the family spoke yiddish or were in any way religious.

[bazwillrun]

@TTT

theyll be asking for a translation...then when they know theyll be getting all offended and the like !

[Gromit]

Labour were never expected to do well in the local elections on Thursday.

These are the seats won in 2012 which was shortly after Osbourne's omni-shambles budget, and Labour over performed gaining very many more seats than anyone expected. So that was always going to adjust itself this time.

However, the shameless self destructive behaviour of Labour's own Blairite MPs whill have made the results a lot worse.

It will be interesting to see where Labour loses go.

[atalanta]

"We wuz robbed"