Crosswords1 min ago
Left 'outers'
Who on the left is voting out?
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sp1814
/// AOG
You make yourself sound simple with your last post.
Like a child. ///
Obviously it seems as if you have lost the augment seeing that you have to revert to being rude and insulting.
Even then you don't seem capable of using proper insults, since a child is not simple, but just a child.
But then the likes of you know nothing of children, only that you was once one yourself at some time.
/// Also in the top ten of my reasons is that all of the people of respect (in terms of intelligence) are voting to stay....a all of morons I know are voting to leave. ///
I do hope you are not including yourself among those of intelligence, because anyone reading your insulting posts, would consider you to be the biggest 'moron' of all.
/// AOG
You make yourself sound simple with your last post.
Like a child. ///
Obviously it seems as if you have lost the augment seeing that you have to revert to being rude and insulting.
Even then you don't seem capable of using proper insults, since a child is not simple, but just a child.
But then the likes of you know nothing of children, only that you was once one yourself at some time.
/// Also in the top ten of my reasons is that all of the people of respect (in terms of intelligence) are voting to stay....a all of morons I know are voting to leave. ///
I do hope you are not including yourself among those of intelligence, because anyone reading your insulting posts, would consider you to be the biggest 'moron' of all.
I WAS a leftie but then saw the light . I am very much a vote NOOOOOOOOO next month. I suggest anyone still voting yes or worse, "undecided" .. please please please watch Brexit the Movie. It's about an hour in length. It is VERY informative. It is NOT propaganda. It is just pure basic FACTS. If you don't watch it, the shame on you for still voting yes. Watch the film, THEN decide yes or no. You owe it to yourself, your children and your country.
Brexit the Movie - for anyone interested. I haven't watched it. I'm voting 'out' anyway.
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Yeah...I've just rechecked your post from 15:32.
Child-like.
Like something that a child who doesn't understand my post would write as a response.
I used to think of you as being up there with TTT and New Judge in your ability to attack and counter attack, even thought I didn't agree with what you believe.
Over the past few months, I kinda see you down there with retrocop and bazwillrun.
You need to up your game.
Not sure what's happening to you this year.
Child-like.
Like something that a child who doesn't understand my post would write as a response.
I used to think of you as being up there with TTT and New Judge in your ability to attack and counter attack, even thought I didn't agree with what you believe.
Over the past few months, I kinda see you down there with retrocop and bazwillrun.
You need to up your game.
Not sure what's happening to you this year.
EDDIE51
Talbot the prices on my link change as the odds move , what I posted were the best prices at that time. The best price for each option are the ones in bold type, that changes as well with the flow of bets.
I thought you were spinning EDDIE ... But obviously I was wrong, you clearly don't understand betting odds.
Talbot the prices on my link change as the odds move , what I posted were the best prices at that time. The best price for each option are the ones in bold type, that changes as well with the flow of bets.
I thought you were spinning EDDIE ... But obviously I was wrong, you clearly don't understand betting odds.
Do you chaps really think all this through or do you just believe the claptrap espoused by politicians?
“I work for global company and we are very tied up with European rules.”
Exactly, 237. If the UK left the EU your company could still trade in Europe by abiding by EU rules. The other 95% of UK companies that have no dealings in Europe would not have to (whereas currently they do).
“If we leave a sizable % of the 1.5 to 2 million UK citizens living in the EU either full or part time will come back permanently, so how will that affect the NHS?”
Why should they Eddie, any more than the Poles and Latvians settled here will return? As I said yesterday there is a UN agreement on Treaties which prevents people being forced to relinquish rights they had taken under a treaty should that treaty be rescinded. Further than this, even if it did happen the ex-pats returning will nowhere near reach the numbers arriving from Europe under “free movement” (At least one million arrived to settle in the last 5 years and that number is probably an under-estimate) which would no longer be allowed.
I also read (I think it was in this thread) that old people are more likely to vote “Leave” because they don’t care (presumably on the premise that they are about to croak it). I believe that the reverse is true – older people are likely to vote “Leave” precisely because they DO care. Most have children and grandchildren who will left to tolerate the shambles that our continued membership will inevitably bring. If older people didn’t care they simply wouldn’t vote and polls suggest they are more likely to vote that the young.
SP’s point about reducing benefits for UK citizens is perfectly valid. At present they are too generous for many people (though not perhaps for those needy rather than greedy). However, if we left the EU there would be no need to adjust benefit levels to those we could afford to pay to all-comers because we simply wouldn’t allow in people with no visible means of support (which currently we are forced to).
The above two scenarios from 237 and Eddie are but two examples of people simply falling for propaganda which simply has no basis. There is no reason to believe that companies trading with Europe would not be able to continue to do so on roughly the same basis as they do now. There is no reason to believe that ex-pats living elsewhere in the EU will be repatriated. Think it though, do some research and don’t fall for politicians’ nonsense.
“I work for global company and we are very tied up with European rules.”
Exactly, 237. If the UK left the EU your company could still trade in Europe by abiding by EU rules. The other 95% of UK companies that have no dealings in Europe would not have to (whereas currently they do).
“If we leave a sizable % of the 1.5 to 2 million UK citizens living in the EU either full or part time will come back permanently, so how will that affect the NHS?”
Why should they Eddie, any more than the Poles and Latvians settled here will return? As I said yesterday there is a UN agreement on Treaties which prevents people being forced to relinquish rights they had taken under a treaty should that treaty be rescinded. Further than this, even if it did happen the ex-pats returning will nowhere near reach the numbers arriving from Europe under “free movement” (At least one million arrived to settle in the last 5 years and that number is probably an under-estimate) which would no longer be allowed.
I also read (I think it was in this thread) that old people are more likely to vote “Leave” because they don’t care (presumably on the premise that they are about to croak it). I believe that the reverse is true – older people are likely to vote “Leave” precisely because they DO care. Most have children and grandchildren who will left to tolerate the shambles that our continued membership will inevitably bring. If older people didn’t care they simply wouldn’t vote and polls suggest they are more likely to vote that the young.
SP’s point about reducing benefits for UK citizens is perfectly valid. At present they are too generous for many people (though not perhaps for those needy rather than greedy). However, if we left the EU there would be no need to adjust benefit levels to those we could afford to pay to all-comers because we simply wouldn’t allow in people with no visible means of support (which currently we are forced to).
The above two scenarios from 237 and Eddie are but two examples of people simply falling for propaganda which simply has no basis. There is no reason to believe that companies trading with Europe would not be able to continue to do so on roughly the same basis as they do now. There is no reason to believe that ex-pats living elsewhere in the EU will be repatriated. Think it though, do some research and don’t fall for politicians’ nonsense.
sp1814
The words you used were "simple like a child" not "child-like, as you are now trying to weedle your way out of things.
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/// Like something that a child who doesn't understand my post would write as a response. ///
I think that anyone but you would not class that response for your 'Big business' support far from childlike.
It is not I who has change, but yourself after throwing your 2015 New Year resolution away.
The words you used were "simple like a child" not "child-like, as you are now trying to weedle your way out of things.
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/// Like something that a child who doesn't understand my post would write as a response. ///
I think that anyone but you would not class that response for your 'Big business' support far from childlike.
It is not I who has change, but yourself after throwing your 2015 New Year resolution away.
New Judge,
SP may well have a valid point regarding benefits, but so far he hasn’t answered my question asking him why he is leaning towards “out” when his anti-benefit stance doesn’t equate with the benefits paid to migrants that come here from Europe.
And as for the oldies voting to leave because of their children and grandchildren, that is certainly the case with my elderly father.
He is absolutely horrified at the “state of this country now” and always says he is “glad to be on his way out, rather than on his way in”.
SP may well have a valid point regarding benefits, but so far he hasn’t answered my question asking him why he is leaning towards “out” when his anti-benefit stance doesn’t equate with the benefits paid to migrants that come here from Europe.
And as for the oldies voting to leave because of their children and grandchildren, that is certainly the case with my elderly father.
He is absolutely horrified at the “state of this country now” and always says he is “glad to be on his way out, rather than on his way in”.
Bigbad
There are two reasons for my post right now...
1. To say that politics, and my personal politics are quite complicated. My heart is mostly 'Left' and my head is mostly 'Right'. This results in some extremely odd decisions on my part, but that's because of the whole Right/Left thing.
2. To get this thread to a nice round 100.
There.
There are two reasons for my post right now...
1. To say that politics, and my personal politics are quite complicated. My heart is mostly 'Left' and my head is mostly 'Right'. This results in some extremely odd decisions on my part, but that's because of the whole Right/Left thing.
2. To get this thread to a nice round 100.
There.
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