How Will Brussells Punish Us For Our Insolence?

[ToraToraTora]

I can't figure out how but is seems an in vote is certain so how will we be punished?

[agchristie]

I don't know except to say that staying in itself is more than punishment...

[Zacs-Master]

Is this just you trying to get some comfort from the fact that you and your buddies are going to loose?

[THEMOTLEY1]

I've heard there won't be an Exit Poll on the day, is this correct?
wide open for a fiddle if it is...

[stuey]

It seems that quite a few of your problems stem , or even sprout, from Brussels.

[mikey4444]

TTT....If we do indeed vote to STAY, and I am not at all sure that we will, who are "we", why would "we" need to be punished, and by whom ?

[cassa333]

Brussels will up our contribution, lower our rebate and, however they word it or make it happen, we will pay even more into bailing out every other eu country in financial difficulties.

CAll me Dave will not get us one single concession, we will lose our veto and forced to join the European army and di and out own.

This won't happen straight away but over the next five years we will become the poorer relation.

[mikey4444]

cassa...that maybe you best guess, but the truth is, we don't know what will happen in 5 years time.

[THEMOTLEY1]

I would like to think there were enough people with 'concern for' and 'pride in' their Country to vote us out. Sadly with the number of immigrants already here with the right to vote, and no doubt wanting to bring in relatives plus our home-grown UK Haters, there's a good few on here, I think it will be close.
If it is close and what I said @ 1418 is correct I think the 'Outs' will be cheated anyway.

[mikey4444]

Motley......"our home-grown UK Haters"

Is this the same as other AB regulars "anti-British" ?

The ones amongst us that refuse to dismiss all immigrants as the same?

[ToraToraTora]

it's just that the bookies are saying IN and they are usually right. I have yet to find anyone who's an IN so were are they coming from? I'm concerned that there is some skull duggery occurring from the remainiacs.

[mikey4444]

TTT...I am an "in" !

But you still haven't explained who "we" are and why we should be punished and by whom....( genuinely don't know ! )

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// Is this the same as other AB regulars "anti-British" ? ///

Yes the very same.

/// The ones amongst us that refuse to dismiss all immigrants as the same? ///

No they are not the Anti-British Brigade. the ABBs are those who prefer to support foreigners in preference to their own countrymen, if in fact that is what they are?

[THEMOTLEY1]

No Mikey, those of us intending to vote out are not dismissing all immigrants as the same as you're so fond of saying, neither are we racist, another favourite of yours. We have a genuine concern for the future of the UK and do not wish to see it ruled by faceless unelected people in another Country. Also it should be more than obvious to anyone with their eyes open that The Great Multicultural Experiment is simply not working.
I'll let the thread revert back to the OP now, but probably not before you have found an excuse to call me a racist.

[ToraToraTora]

don't be obtuse mikey , "WE" are the UK and we will be punished by our masters for daring to question their wisdom. Yes even those of you who voted in will be punished. We will all be sent to the Naughty step as a nation.

When I say have yet to meet someone voting in, I mean in my day to day interactions, not that the subject always comes up. For example today in the changing room in the gym they where all Brexiters.

[mikey4444]

TTT....Amongst my Thursday night Pub crowd, of retired BT workmates, there is a clear majority on favour of staying. I attended a family lunch yesterday, with 12 attendees, and 11 were for staying in in as well.

Now...... this may not be very scientific, and probably isn't, as I tend not to mix with Tory voters, but if your experience is the opposite, than I would suggest that isn't very scientific either.

We tend to mix with like minds do we not ?

[ToraToraTora]

so now you know who "we" are, care to have a go at the question?

[mikey4444]

By all means TTT !

I think you are using hyperbole to make a very confused point.

Naughty step ?

I resume that you mean Brussels when you refer to our "Masters"

As far as I am concerned, our masters are the current Tory Leadership, and its policies, although that consensus is quickly falling apart. Some of the people that you and other Tory supporters voted for so readily in May 2015, are now the enemy, or at least they are according to you.

[anotheoldgit]

It would appear that due to mass immigration and multiculturalism, the true Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman, the breed of people who most of the World once looked up to, are quickly becoming a dying breed in our own lands.

Now we are becoming a subservient group of people who are prepared to see this once sceptred isle be ruled by a multitude of foreign lands.

Vote for out, the rest of Europe is looking for the the lead we once had.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// Now...... this may not be very scientific, and probably isn't, as I tend not to mix with Tory voters, ///

Yes it may not be very scientific as you say, but what it definitely is, it is very bigoted of you, had you said "as I tend not to mix with Black or Asian voters" then that would have been racist, what's the difference?

[mikey4444]

In the 2011 Census, only 4.8% of people said that they were Muslim.

As some of that number would have been White, and Anglo-Saxon, then the true number of "foreign" Muslims must have been smaller than 4.8%.

Further data from the ONS gave a figure of 86% of the population as identified themselves as "White" in the same Census.

So, your assertion that "true Englishman, Scotsman and Welshman, the breed of people who most of the World once looked up to, are quickly becoming a dying breed in our own lands." has no basis in the truth..

Just scare-mongering in fact.