So The Last Tool Of The Bremainers Is To Simply Not Vote It Through The Commons!

[youngmafbog]

I guess no surprises here.

Why is it most Brexiters are more than happy to accept the result of a poll but the Bremainers wont stop until they get their way regardless of a vote?

What has happened to democracy?

Will we have to vote until we give the 'correct' answer?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/677446/Pro-EU-MPs-defy-Brexit-referendum-single-market-politics

[dannyk13]

Surely you don't expect the Cameron to break the mould and actually listen to the people.Never happen.

[Old_Geezer]

We'd still be leaving the EU which is the main thing, but getting away from free movement of people is one if the major benefits of extracting ourselves. We should not be agreeing to staying with the "single market" without an agreement that for us it IS just the market, nothing more. The rules around it were always flawed.

[mikey4444]

This Referendum is only consultative.

If the vote is to leave, then it still has to be passed in Parliament, and I can't see that there are enough MPs who will support the necessary legislation.

Apart from UKIP, no other Party wants to leave !

[Svejk]

No point in voting then, mikey?

[waterboatman]

The MP's should listen to the people and do the will of the people. But that is never going to happen if it disagrees with lining their pockets.

[Svejk]

I would think this is the line in the sand that even our grasping MPs dare not cross.

[Bertrum]

if that happens UKIP could form the next government

[Gromit]

The result of the referendum is not binding, never has been.

It is to guage the views of the population. A Government does not have to carry out any actions based on the result, though if Cameron tried to ignore a Leave Vote, it would probably destroy his party.

[New Judge]

Apart from the Commons needing to vote to leave, they also have to legislate for what comes afterwards, and that is what was being discussed yesterday. There is a suggestion that some sort of "Norwegian" model is to be followed. This would be a complete travesty because, as has been mentioned, free movement of people is still a requirement of that model and and end to that principle is one of the biggest reasons that people voting Brexit will do so.

[ToraToraTora]

so heads we win tails you lose! Right oh, the fact is that parliament would risk revolution if they ignore this. There are many senior Brexiters who together could bring down the government and sweep away the old parties and start again with new orientation. I suspect even those who lost the referendum would expect parliament to honour it.

[fiction-factory]

Didn't Michael Gove let it sip yesterday that even if a vote for Brexit goes through it might be 2020 before we are able to leave in an orderly manner.

[ToraToraTora]

I'll wait but in reality we just cut the limb off like the gangrenous lump it is. Stop paying and ignore their ***, sorted.

[mushroom25]

//Didn't Michael Gove let it sip yesterday that even if a vote for Brexit goes through it might be 2020 before we are able to leave in an orderly manner.//

i didn't hear that interview but i would venture that 2020 - or indeed any date this side of 2025 - would be very much on the conservative side. this isn't like leaving the scouts, it'll take years to sort a legal disaggregation.

[ToraToraTora]

It may take time because of all the losers playing na na nana na, but in reality it should not if the will to get on with it is there.

[Old_Geezer]

Which is one reason why there wouldn't be a sudden economic change on an exit. Whilst there is no reason to believe the fear stories of any significant change anyway, but anything spread out over four or more years will adapt slowly to the better situation.

[fiction-factory]

I agree mushroom. We would need to put new agreements in place before we could get rid of the old ones . It would mean lots of jobs and money for bureaucrats and lawyers and they would drag it out for as long as possible.

[youngmafbog]

Wel we know you hate democracy Mickey.

[ToraToraTora]

The left love democracy YMB so long as it elects people they like and they do the things on the "approved" list.

[Svejk]

Tasmina Sheik said yesterday, 'We have to stay in the EU to stop the tories carrying out their policies'.
The left have utter contempt for democracy.

[mikey4444]

The usual personal abuse I see chaps, together with a complete inability to debate the issue !

Same old, same old.