Every Little Helps!

[Baldric]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/677457/Armed-forces-veterans-troops-vote-out-leave-European-Union-EU-brexit-swing-result

[Baldric]

//It falls upon us yet again to fight for our freedom and sovereignty.//

[albaqwerty]

I loathe the typed word at times, it doesn't convey the tone of the voice.

As they are retired, presumably some of them might have been around to vote in the 70's regarding the Common Market?

Next question is if we were to remain in, surely there couldn't be a United European Army? Surely that flies in the face of NATO? (I'm just curious)

[dannyk13]

rmy

[dannyk13]

Sorry, don't know what happened there. I wrote that Herr Merkel has already suggested a European army.

[Ken4155]

270! WOW so many out of what must be hundreds of thousands of "Armed forces veterans" up and down the country. The Express and it's owners are all for a Brexit and this is typical of their efforts to convince us to follow suit. Pathetic, really, imho.

[albaqwerty]

your first reply Danny, was because of EU budget cuts

[Baldric]

///Around 3.4million people are thought to have served in the armed forces since the Second World War, and a source told the Sun: “That number could totally swing the result if those people come out in large numbers.///

[EDDIE51]

The British Army has more men based in Germany and Cyprus than it does in the UK. If we need an aircraft carrier we have to ask France to 'lend' us one of theirs. Every major Navy ship has a complement of European sailors and our men serve in European ships. The Air force operates joint exercises / shares aircraft with European nations.
None of this will change in or out of the EU. In reality we already have a joint European Army, Navy and Air force.

[Baldric]

All of which is fascinating but has no bearing to the subject of the OP whatsoever.

[viv41]

Excellent article.

[Zacs-Master]

I do wish people would acquaint themselves with the facts before believing tabloid (or any other) newspaper headlines:
https://fullfact.org/europe/hunt-eu-army/

[Baldric]

///Some people would like an EU army, but there aren’t concrete plans for one///

And some just make it up as they go along.

[Svejk]

Full Fact. Lolz. Noted Zacs. I'll get back to you at the end of this month.

[Zacs-Master]

So, Svejk you done believe we have a veto and that a referendum would be needed before any transfer of defence powers from the UK to the EU?

[Zacs-Master]

Don't (not done...obviously).

[Svejk]

Talk to you at the end of the month.
But, for future reference, this is how the EU works;
It'll never happen
It'll never happen
It'll never happen
And,,,,,,it's happened.