Trump Says Us Should Consider Racial Profiling

[naomi24]

//Saying "we have to start using common sense", the Republican also reiterates his support for more scrutiny of US mosques. Republican White House candidate Donald Trump has said the US should consider more racial profiling in law enforcement, after last week's mass shooting in Florida.

"I think profiling is something that we're going to have to start thinking about as a country," Mr Trump said when asked on CBS whether he supported more profiling of Muslims in America.

"You look at Israel and you look at others, and they do it and they do it successfully. And you know, I hate the concept of profiling, but we have to start using common sense," he added.//

http://news.sky.com/story/1714334/trump-says-us-should-consider-racial-profiling

Common sense, as he says, or not?

[youngmafbog]

Gun control in the US is pretty much pointless. 400m guns estimated in the US all control would do is push tge nutters underground. Not saying some effortcould be made but ut is not tge eutopia some seem to thing.

I thin Donald has a point. We are at war.

[Ellipsis]

Racial profiling is the use of an individual's race or ethnicity as a key factor in deciding whether to engage in enforcement (e.g. stop and search or arrest). The practice is controversial and is illegal in many jurisdictions. It should not be confused with offender profiling, which is an investigative tool.

Given the above distinction I would say that offender profiling is OK, but racial profiling is a form of racism and therefore not OK.

[THECORBYLOON]

You say I am diverting the thread but is Trump not trying to divert folk away from gun control? A nutter with an automatic rifle is a nutter with an automatic rifle regardless of whether he is a Muslim, white supremacist

[THECORBYLOON]

Too early..Jewish or a Roman Catholic Sunday School teacher. The common thread is a mad man and a gun. Racial profiling will not identify a mad person unless you know differently.

[naomi24]

Ellipsis, how about religious profiling which in the case of Islam would, in many instances, would be racial profiling under another name?

[naomi24]

*one 'would' too many there.

[anotheoldgit]

naomi24

Oh they have a name for that, it is called Islamanic profiling, so we can't have that, even if most of the terrorist attacks are committed in that religion's name.

[anotheoldgit]

Replace Islamanic with Islamophobic.

[Islay]

I really really hope that the nutter Trump does not win!!

[Ellipsis]

Hi Naomi

"Radicalised Muslim" might be part of an offender profile.

Trump seems to be looking for something broader, i.e. something that applies to all Muslims.

[jomifl]

Sanity profiling might work. Anybody who wants a gun is the last person that should have one.

[jomifl]

Ellipsis, the only thing that applies to all muslims is that they are all muslims.

[ToraToraTora]

yes, common sense, sadly it ain't that common.

[Ellipsis]

> Ellipsis, the only thing that applies to all muslims is that they are all muslims

Exactly, which means that "Muslim" is not a good trait for profiling ...

[mibn2cweus]

If it quacks like a duck, no less likely to be . . . a duck.

[naomi24]

Ellipsis //Trump seems to be looking for something broader, i.e. something that applies to all Muslims. //

You're saying that but he's not. He's simply saying that in order to flush out radicalised Islamists it’s common sense to seek them among Muslims.

[Old_Geezer]

There is something to be said for targeting limited resources on folk considered more likely to be involved: but I wonder how well it works in practice. First off the potential perpetrators will know where authorities are concentrating effort and recruit those who appear not to fit that specific profile. Secondly the act may drive a wedge through society with one group feeling like outsiders, not part of the rest of society, and it causing more conflict in the longer term. Might be best to allocate all the resource needed to check all.

[anotheoldgit]

Old_Geezer

/// Secondly the act may drive a wedge through society with one group feeling like outsiders, ///

Could you possibly mean us? Because it is increasing beginning to feel that it is.

[THECORBYLOON]

Looking at the UK and the US, one country has fifty times the number of gun-related deaths per 100,000 folk than the other.

One country has nineteen times as many guns per 100 folk than the other.

One country has 0.9% Muslims and the other has 4.5%.

One country is discussing banning Muslims and not gun-control, one isn't.

Guess which is which?

[DTCwordfan]

Religious profiling masquerading as racial profiling - as long as the Jews, Christians and Bhuddists et al are similarly handled. Two questions - what is their visa process - profiling perhaps? What do the FBI and CIA do to earn their keep as to Inland Security - profiling perhaps?

Wake up Donald, it's been going on for ages - anybody who has ever undergone a Green Card application will be more than aware.....there's even health profiling on that process....