Ukip; The New United Tory/labour Party?

[youngmafbog]

Swathes of good working people were not represented by their party as were many Tories.

Is there a space for UKIP to fill ?

[waterboatman]

Nigel Farage for PM.

[ToraToraTora]

I can see UKIP disbanding and joining the Tories YMB, their work is done after all. Hopefully we can get a solid Brexit government together to yank us out of the EU. Cancel the DD now though.

[mikey4444]

Cut and pasted from a reply on another thread :::

Farage has said on many occasions that his only purpose was to get a Referendum. We have now had that and the people have voted to leave, so what possible use is there for a Party called The United Kingdom Independence Party ?

There is only one UKIP MP, and it isn't Farage, so its doesn't really matter either way I suppose.

But the Party itself has now made itself redundant.

[naomi24]

waterboatman, ditto to that.

[youngmafbog]

But so has labour Mickey. Labour has achieved what is was setup for and has now lost it's way totally ignoring it's voters who voted for independence (UKIP).

// what possible use is there for a Party called The United Kingdom Independence Party //

Who says it has to be called that?

[mikey4444]

Boaty...wouldn't he have to get a seat at Westminster first ?

[youngmafbog]

And who says such a party has to be lead by Nigel ?

[Svejk]

They'll be able to parachute him into a safe, ex-Labour, UKIP seat.

[mikey4444]

YMB...whatever our individual political views, Labour won 232 seats in Westminster just over a year ago, against the Tories 330. So I don't accept your premise at 08:21. Labour remains as Her Majesty's official opposition.

But I would prefer to see a new Election ASAP, as the situation has now changed utterly from May 2015.

[Marshwarble]

But its legacy of bigotry will carry on. RIP UKIP.

[naomi24]

Marshwarble, not bigoted - just common sense.

[Old_Geezer]

I think UKIP seems too right wing in national matters to appeal to Labour voters. And it's unlikely Tory voters will desert whoever takes over of their party. Until voters vote for individuals and parties are a thing of the past, one can almost count out a smaller party taking dominance.

It took a world war, and the realisation of the working class that they didn't need to take it any more, for the last change. (Trouble is that the masses have become complacent as time has gone on, and rights hard won get chipped away at with their approval.)

[Svejk]

You'd expect, if not humble-pie eating, a little pause for introspection from the haters now they've been proved wrong.
But no, they just come right out, oblivious, shouting the odds again.

[Postdog]

I have a hole in my garden he's welcome to. Leaving had nothing to do with him. Well, for me anyway.

[Old_Geezer]

bigot
noun
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

Unsure that applies to one side nor the whole of the UK. It is something applicable to individuals.

[jambutty]

Seconded waterboatman !

[Hypognosis]

@Old_Geezer

So people are beginning to misuse the word 'bigot' as a byword for something else?

Such as: - one person uses it correctly, calling some other debater "bigoted racist" - intolerant of others' views *and* racist, on top - but uninformed listeners (like Gordon Brown?) hear that and mistakenly think bigot is synonymous with racist?

I ask this at the hazard of softening the severity of insult carried by the word bigot but it really should be just a statement of fact, about the debate opponent, not a derogatory term.

[Zacs-Master]

Farage defected from the Cons. Would they have him back?

[mikey4444]

Gromit.....UKIP and the Tory Party are not so far from each other...who else would have him, other than the Tories ?

[Zacs-Master]

Gromit?