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Ukip; The New United Tory/labour Party?
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Swathes of good working people were not represented by their party as were many Tories.
Is there a space for UKIP to fill ?
Is there a space for UKIP to fill ?
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Farage has said on many occasions that his only purpose was to get a Referendum. We have now had that and the people have voted to leave, so what possible use is there for a Party called The United Kingdom Independence Party ?
There is only one UKIP MP, and it isn't Farage, so its doesn't really matter either way I suppose.
But the Party itself has now made itself redundant.
Farage has said on many occasions that his only purpose was to get a Referendum. We have now had that and the people have voted to leave, so what possible use is there for a Party called The United Kingdom Independence Party ?
There is only one UKIP MP, and it isn't Farage, so its doesn't really matter either way I suppose.
But the Party itself has now made itself redundant.
YMB...whatever our individual political views, Labour won 232 seats in Westminster just over a year ago, against the Tories 330. So I don't accept your premise at 08:21. Labour remains as Her Majesty's official opposition.
But I would prefer to see a new Election ASAP, as the situation has now changed utterly from May 2015.
But I would prefer to see a new Election ASAP, as the situation has now changed utterly from May 2015.
I think UKIP seems too right wing in national matters to appeal to Labour voters. And it's unlikely Tory voters will desert whoever takes over of their party. Until voters vote for individuals and parties are a thing of the past, one can almost count out a smaller party taking dominance.
It took a world war, and the realisation of the working class that they didn't need to take it any more, for the last change. (Trouble is that the masses have become complacent as time has gone on, and rights hard won get chipped away at with their approval.)
It took a world war, and the realisation of the working class that they didn't need to take it any more, for the last change. (Trouble is that the masses have become complacent as time has gone on, and rights hard won get chipped away at with their approval.)
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So people are beginning to misuse the word 'bigot' as a byword for something else?
Such as: - one person uses it correctly, calling some other debater "bigoted racist" - intolerant of others' views *and* racist, on top - but uninformed listeners (like Gordon Brown?) hear that and mistakenly think bigot is synonymous with racist?
I ask this at the hazard of softening the severity of insult carried by the word bigot but it really should be just a statement of fact, about the debate opponent, not a derogatory term.
So people are beginning to misuse the word 'bigot' as a byword for something else?
Such as: - one person uses it correctly, calling some other debater "bigoted racist" - intolerant of others' views *and* racist, on top - but uninformed listeners (like Gordon Brown?) hear that and mistakenly think bigot is synonymous with racist?
I ask this at the hazard of softening the severity of insult carried by the word bigot but it really should be just a statement of fact, about the debate opponent, not a derogatory term.
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