Labour Really Don't Like Democracy Do They?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36770627

[DTCwordfan]

John Adams quote - "Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide."

[Peter Pedant]

I think even Corbo has realised who has joined the Party ( er Labour Party that is ) in the last three months

I have to say

A: I am standing for the labour party chief
B: zen I feel you full of lead, greengo

is an odd way to canvass - but then I am almost 65

[Peter Pedant]

DTC not one of adams best quotes I think

substitute 'Revolution' and you get another useful one
viz - Revolution eats its own children....

[EDDIE51]

The Conservatives do not seem too keen on it either.Short Circuit the leadership contest to shoehorn May in!

[ToraToraTora]

but then I am almost 65 - IQ?

not many death threats eddie!

[Peter Pedant]

yeah ed I had noticed no one had voted to May tobe prime minister
a sort of kinda important job

[Jackdaw33]

That is not the case and you know it, Eddie.

[Jackdaw33]

As for PP, you do talk tripe at times. A little study of the British constitution might help you understand.

[ToraToraTora]

JD - "you do talk tripe at times" - vastly inaccurate, remove the word "do" and insert the word "all" after the word "at".

[EDDIE51]

jackdaw why is it not the case?
Looks like it to me, the only contender pushed out so the 'chosen one' could stand?
What would 'The People of AB' be saying if Labour had done the same for their leader?

[ToraToraTora]

she won the party leadership election under their rules PP.

[Quizmonster]

One cannot disagree with that, TTT, but it does seem rather 'thin' for someone to be moving into Number 10 because 199 people voted for her, don't you think?
The 199 were those members of the Conservative Parliamentary Party who chose her in Ballot No 2, as opposed to the 131 who didn't!

[New Judge]

"...but it does seem rather 'thin' for someone to be moving into Number 10 because 199 people voted for her, don't you think? "

Unlike one James Gordon Brown who, if memory serves me well (but I stand to be corrected) "moved into No.10" on the basis of winning an "election" completely unopposed !!!

[ToraToraTora]

thems the rules QM, we don't elect the PM never have.

[-Talbot-]

It is getting dafter and dafter

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-refuses-to-leave-nec-meeting-about-his-future-as-leader-ballot-paper-banned-court-a7133121.html

[ToraToraTora]

tell you what I like him even more now, well done Jezza!

[DTCwordfan]

Really, a lack of knowledge is showing here. Each Party, under their rules, choose the leader (and the PM if they are in power), not the electorate at large - this transfer has happened many times through history. The election is for voting your MP and not the PM, though he/she is, of course, a major figurehead for the Party.

I was looking forward for a vote, for TM, but hey, ho - indeed, it is probably wiser to have a quick transfer of PM and buy as much time for preparing for the Brexit negotiations - and a host of other issues on the table.

[DTCwordfan]

Quote - "The Petitions Committee has decided to schedule a House of Commons debate on this petition. The debate will take place on 5 September at 4.30pm in Westminster Hall, the second debating chamber of the House of Commons. The debate will be opened by Ian Blackford MP.
The Committee has decided that the huge number of people signing this petition means that it should be debated by MPs. The Petitions Committee would like to make clear that, in scheduling this debate, they are not supporting the call for a second referendum. The debate will allow MPs to put forward a range of views on behalf of their constituents. At the end of the debate, a Government Minister will respond to the points raised.
A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won’t end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum. Moreover, the petition – which was opened on 25 May, well before the referendum – calls for the referendum rules to be changed. It is now too late for the rules to be changed retrospectively. It will be up to the Government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum.
The Petitions Committee is a cross-party group of MPs. It is independent from Government. You can find out more about the Committee on its website: http://www.parliament.uk/petitions-committee/role - Unquote

[DTCwordfan]

sorry wrong thread!

[bazwillrun]

"thems the rules QM, we don't elect the PM never have."

exactly ..we elect a government..the party elects the PM