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OG, your summation might work except for one thing. Islam is not becoming more enlightened. In its determination to conquer it is becoming more and more barbaric. It is going backwards!
//War occurs between nations//
This is not a war between nations. Islam doesn't recognise geographical boundaries. Wherever they come from Muslims are always, first and foremost, Muslim.
//One thing clearly needing to be tackled is the lack of genuine integration into society, and some's lack of acceptance of the values of the country they live in.//
They CAN’T integrate. Their book tells them they can’t integrate!!
This is hard work!!
//War occurs between nations//
This is not a war between nations. Islam doesn't recognise geographical boundaries. Wherever they come from Muslims are always, first and foremost, Muslim.
//One thing clearly needing to be tackled is the lack of genuine integration into society, and some's lack of acceptance of the values of the country they live in.//
They CAN’T integrate. Their book tells them they can’t integrate!!
This is hard work!!
Yes OG. The problem is not Islam per se. The problem is shared by all the Abrahamic faiths and their dogma of the "one true god".
Through their upholding of the ignorant, arrogant, misogynistic notions of the musing of so call "prophets" as eternal truths, the Christians also have blood on their hands every time someone dies in the name of faith.
There is no sense of genuine morality within any form Abrahamic religion.
Through their upholding of the ignorant, arrogant, misogynistic notions of the musing of so call "prophets" as eternal truths, the Christians also have blood on their hands every time someone dies in the name of faith.
There is no sense of genuine morality within any form Abrahamic religion.
OG/Beso, The Bible does indeed contain much of a vastly unsavoury nature. However, there is a difference between that and the Koran in that the Bible is considered to have been written by men inspired by God, whereas the Koran is believed (by those who believe it) to be the direct word of God, and as such, beyond criticism and completely infallible. In short, the Bible is open to interpretation – the Koran is not.
Why is everyone assuming there is a religious angle to this attack?
All the information is that it was a French/ Tunisian citizen ( last night's reports were French / Algerian) who has a life long criminal record, acting with an accomplice for his own 'Agenda' . It all looks as though he just had a grudge against society in general and France in particular.
Tunisia is another North African country that has 100s of years association with France so there are 100,000s of French/Tunisian 'joint' citizens as well as the French/Algerians.
All the information is that it was a French/ Tunisian citizen ( last night's reports were French / Algerian) who has a life long criminal record, acting with an accomplice for his own 'Agenda' . It all looks as though he just had a grudge against society in general and France in particular.
Tunisia is another North African country that has 100s of years association with France so there are 100,000s of French/Tunisian 'joint' citizens as well as the French/Algerians.
Yet the Muslims that I work with have integrated perfectly well..
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As have most that I work with. There is one however who once left translated texts lying around in Theatre. He'd actually highlighted certain parts that was all about the destruction of the Jews. He is a consultant and a lot of the juniors are very wary of him as he is constantly pestering them to attend the mosque and reminding them to be 'good muslims'.
He is highly regarded at the local mosque, where recently an incident involving a Libyan arms plot of some £18.6 million occurred.
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As have most that I work with. There is one however who once left translated texts lying around in Theatre. He'd actually highlighted certain parts that was all about the destruction of the Jews. He is a consultant and a lot of the juniors are very wary of him as he is constantly pestering them to attend the mosque and reminding them to be 'good muslims'.
He is highly regarded at the local mosque, where recently an incident involving a Libyan arms plot of some £18.6 million occurred.
naomi
I have read every report I can find, this is typical.
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They all say the same 'a career criminal' acting with an accomplice NO suggestion of any religious motivation , no group has claimed responsibility for his actions.
France has a long history of conflict between it and it's former North African Territory of Tunisia and Algeria. I can remember many acts of terrorism due to Algerian terrorists in France back in the 60s. Tunisia gained its independence from France in 1957 so it is that bit further back in time so that I do not remember the lead up to it, though I hear it was also violent.
I have read every report I can find, this is typical.
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They all say the same 'a career criminal' acting with an accomplice NO suggestion of any religious motivation , no group has claimed responsibility for his actions.
France has a long history of conflict between it and it's former North African Territory of Tunisia and Algeria. I can remember many acts of terrorism due to Algerian terrorists in France back in the 60s. Tunisia gained its independence from France in 1957 so it is that bit further back in time so that I do not remember the lead up to it, though I hear it was also violent.
Eddie, Try this from the BBC.
//It follows an earlier call by so-called Islamic State (IS) spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani for IS followers to do exactly what this truck driver did. //
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Stop making excuses for these people! They don't care who they kill - and you and yours could be next!!
///Yet the Muslims that I work with have integrated perfectly well///
People forget that Islam permits its followers to lie to the infidel.
//It follows an earlier call by so-called Islamic State (IS) spokesman Abu Muhammad al-Adnani for IS followers to do exactly what this truck driver did. //
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Stop making excuses for these people! They don't care who they kill - and you and yours could be next!!
///Yet the Muslims that I work with have integrated perfectly well///
People forget that Islam permits its followers to lie to the infidel.
It's been said before but it's worth saying again, that sociological studies in France have shown a great alienation among France's younger people of N African background in particular. Caught between a secular state and the increasing secularity of their parents, they find themselves branded outsiders by white French society and at the same time they get no cultural or religious comfort or identity confirmation from their parents either: not a good state of affairs, although of course one doesn't yet know, and may never know, the motivation behind this. As ever I am sure they're hoping its part of something larger and planned that they can get a handle on on try to eradicate, but if it really is a case of random bloke flips and goes all radical then it's hard to know what you can do about it.
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