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Jezza's Revenge?
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When the Labour Party changed from an Electoral College to a one member one vote, the MPs function was to nominate 5 suitable candidates. But they couldn't even do that right. The present problem is entirely the result of the MPs nominating Corbyn in the first place. Their sulking at the members electing the wrong candidate is pathetic. The solution really is...
15:52 Thu 21st Jul 2016
TTT - //let's hope so! To be fair to Jezza though it's not his fault. //
Then whose fault is it?
Corbyn is utterly at odds with his party and his MP's who hold an entirely different view that that expressed by the chicanery of an election process that brought him to power.
Of all the unelectable leaders Labour has had - and heaven knows they have had them - Foot / Kinnock / Milliband - and now him - he comes across as the most obstinate and unwilling to accept the situation and move away from power.
Then whose fault is it?
Corbyn is utterly at odds with his party and his MP's who hold an entirely different view that that expressed by the chicanery of an election process that brought him to power.
Of all the unelectable leaders Labour has had - and heaven knows they have had them - Foot / Kinnock / Milliband - and now him - he comes across as the most obstinate and unwilling to accept the situation and move away from power.
TTT - //AH: "Corbyn is utterly at odds with his party " - err he won the leadership in straight sets less than a year ago, doesn't sound like someone at odds to me. What happenned? mass hypnosis?
How is it his fault if the Blairites don't like him? Probably too honest for them. //
I must qualify my point - he is at odds with the Parliamentary Party, rather than the mass membership, which may or may not have been nobbled by dubious piece of electioneering - I couldn't possibly comment.
I think pig-headed stubbornness is one of the most unattractive character traits a politician can have - it finished Thatcher, it will finish Corbyn, it's only a matter of time.
I will show my bottom in Burton's window if Corbyn is still leader when the next election looms into view.
How is it his fault if the Blairites don't like him? Probably too honest for them. //
I must qualify my point - he is at odds with the Parliamentary Party, rather than the mass membership, which may or may not have been nobbled by dubious piece of electioneering - I couldn't possibly comment.
I think pig-headed stubbornness is one of the most unattractive character traits a politician can have - it finished Thatcher, it will finish Corbyn, it's only a matter of time.
I will show my bottom in Burton's window if Corbyn is still leader when the next election looms into view.
When the Labour Party changed from an Electoral College to a one member one vote, the MPs function was to nominate 5 suitable candidates. But they couldn't even do that right. The present problem is entirely the result of the MPs nominating Corbyn in the first place.
Their sulking at the members electing the wrong candidate is pathetic.
The solution really is obvious. If the members and the leader are on the same side, but the MPs are not, then the MPs have to change or be removed.
The boundary change is the perfect time to do that, if the party is still in existance in 2018.
Their sulking at the members electing the wrong candidate is pathetic.
The solution really is obvious. If the members and the leader are on the same side, but the MPs are not, then the MPs have to change or be removed.
The boundary change is the perfect time to do that, if the party is still in existance in 2018.
Gromit - //When the Labour Party changed from an Electoral College to a one member one vote, the MPs function was to nominate 5 suitable candidates. But they couldn't even do that right. The present problem is entirely the result of the MPs nominating Corbyn in the first place.
Their sulking at the members electing the wrong candidate is pathetic.
The solution really is obvious. If the members and the leader are on the same side, but the MPs are not, then the MPs have to change or be removed.
The boundary change is the perfect time to do that, if the party is still in existance in 2018. //
I think you've summed it all up nicely there.
Their sulking at the members electing the wrong candidate is pathetic.
The solution really is obvious. If the members and the leader are on the same side, but the MPs are not, then the MPs have to change or be removed.
The boundary change is the perfect time to do that, if the party is still in existance in 2018. //
I think you've summed it all up nicely there.
"I think pig-headed stubbornness is one of the most unattractive character traits a politician can have" - yes but does he not have a duty to the 10's of thousands of ordinary members that elected him? Should a couple of hundred selfish prannies be able to force him out? If they are indeed more important then change the party rules to reflect that. I don't think it's stubbornness in this case I think he's standing up to bullies. Dam you Labour for making me argue for a Labour leader!
"I will show my bottom in Burton's window if Corbyn is still leader when the next election looms into view. " - Well we've had Harrods and Selfridges Andy why not!
"I will show my bottom in Burton's window if Corbyn is still leader when the next election looms into view. " - Well we've had Harrods and Selfridges Andy why not!
It was TTT who made the Harrods promise.
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Still, I think on balance we're all grateful that he's not going to carry it out.
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Still, I think on balance we're all grateful that he's not going to carry it out.
There is nothing surprising about this.
The MPS are not going to suddenly start pretending Corbyn is anything other than utterly useless no matter who wins the leadership election.
Savaged by Theresa DeathMask at her first PMQ doesn't get much worse than that.
When even I am joining in the laughter it has to be bad
The MPS are not going to suddenly start pretending Corbyn is anything other than utterly useless no matter who wins the leadership election.
Savaged by Theresa DeathMask at her first PMQ doesn't get much worse than that.
When even I am joining in the laughter it has to be bad