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Naomi, we all want I am sure to see peace somehow break out in Syria.
But how likely is it that reinstating the government of President Assad over the whole of the country would actually work? Even if it was morally acceptable to join in genocide for the sake of ... ? What?

It's a fantasy.
It was the regime of Assad that started all this in the first place, despite what some seem to think. His army fired the first shots, dropped the first bombs.


But it would confuse Stop the War, as I mentioned earlier (!)
There is that.

Then there is no answer.
No I don't think there is. As I said earlier. Or at least, if there is no one has got to the stage of working it out.
The first answer, years ago, was UN sanctions against Assad, as it was really he who was plainly stirring a major conflict by his actions. But that got nowhere because Russia and China intervened, and there was, rightly and understandably, no appetite for a military intervention.
The next idea was support for the moderate rebels, who at the start were THE rebels, but that was problematic as progress was slow and the sheer brutality of the government offensive drove many more people in the ranks of the more extreme groups.
And meanwhile all sort of other groups,: IS, the Kurds, the Turkmen, all staked their pitch.
Then there was the chemical weapons fuss, when we patted ourselves on the back that we'd made Assad give them up, when actually all he really did was increase his non-chemical barrel bombing of civilians.
For all that, it looked like he was on the way out, and ceasefires were starting to break out between rebel groups and his exhausted army.
It was then that the Russians intervened.
So a series of worthwhile but doomed plans have failed, and now brute force is being redoubled in a frantic attempt to reclaim as much of the country as possible for the regime.
And we get to the stage, to return to aog's original question, where an admittedly unconventional and outspoken foreign secretary has spoken out against the latest developments.
I'd almost forgive Boris his Brexit period :-)
ichkeria, yes, I know the history - but I can't foretell the future.
ich. In an ideal world, the violence of ISIS could be stopped by negotiation, as there is zero chance of that, it can only be stopped by warfare and innocents will get caught in the crossfire, surrender would lead to the extermination of every Alawite, Christian, Shia and more. How do you evaluate one life against another? and before this insurrection they lived reasonably peacefully together in a beautiful country.
The fact that Britain and the US are selling billions of dollars worth of arms to the despicable Saudis who are arming ISIS adds to the surreal nature of all this.
Also en passent I have just conferred with my historian wife and there was nothing illegal about Hitler's position as leader of Germany.
I didn't say there was anything illegal about it.
My point was that Hitler was the head of the German state, as Assad is the head of the Syrian state. The justification for supporting the latter seems to be that he's the "rightful" government" but that reasoning alone is rather questionable.
re IS and the fighting against thereof :-)

It will be interesting to compare and contrast the methods used in Mosul shortly with those in Aleppo (which of course is not IS anyway)
^ Yeah!
ichkeria
The fact is, Talbot, no one knows how to do it.
There are indications Obama is planning something.
But I don't know what that could be.




He's planning his retirement.
I think the fact that Obama is on the way out is not irrelevant.
Russia cannot bank on the current administration's policy continuing.
If with (God forbid) Trump in the White House things are likely to change, at least be unpredictable, although it is Clinton they really fear.
"US peace Councils visit. Another angle ? "

Well, it's certainly another angle: a rather obtuse one, I'd say
Patrickk Henningsen has an interesting CV of the usual suspects: RT, global research, infowars, and 21st centurywire.
Just another useful/less idiot

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/authors/patrick-henningsen/
I'm really beginning to worry about the appointment of Boris Johnson as Foreign secretary, he seems to be emerging not just as a clown, but a dangerous clown.
What did you disagree with ichkeria?
The fact is, Talbot, no one knows how to do it.
There are indications Obama is planning something.
But I don't know what that could be.
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The best way would be to tell everyone to get out and move to the nearest Arab country. After that, drop several nukes and turn the country into one big sheet of glass, then see who still wants it.
My apologies to Obama, he hasn't retired.

Apparently he is busy touring America ... roasting Trump!

I am sure when he has dealt with that his attention will be fully on the international crisis that is Aleppo.
What did I disagree with Orderlimit?
Just about every word

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