Nobel Prizewinner

[jno]

Bob Dylan.... hmmm, the times the times they are a-changing

[agchristie]

Naomi > When comparing Svetlana Alexievich with Dylan she was comparing an apple with a doughnut.

LOL!

[mikey4444]

Andy....this appears on the BBC website this morning :::

"The 75-year-old rock legend received the prize "for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".

This is word-for-word what is shown on the Nobel's own website. There is no mention of any books, "just poetic expressions within the great American song tradition"

[jno]

I don't think you ever know who's under consideration; they don't publish long lists or short lists, and there don't seem to be a lot of leaks as a rule, so most of the winners ae surprises.

And nobody ever has any "right" to be annoyed about it; it's their prize and they can give it to absolutely anyone they please.

[naomi24]

//they can give it to absolutely anyone they please. //

Can't argue there. That's the end of your thread then.

[andy-hughes]

jno - Just because one contributor decides that your thread is 'over' does not make it so - time will indicate that, not some arbitrary decision by someone with no basis or qualification to make it.

[mikey4444]

Well said Andy !

[andy-hughes]

mikey - //Andy....this appears on the BBC website this morning :::

"The 75-year-old rock legend received the prize "for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".

This is word-for-word what is shown on the Nobel's own website. There is no mention of any books, "just poetic expressions within the great American song tradition" //

I can only conclude then that the committee have decided that Dylan's lyrical genius is sufficient that it informs poetic expression, and therefore as I suggested, crosses previous boundaries between written literature and sung lyrics.

But I am only surmising, I have no idea how the committee reaches its decisions.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes & Mikey suffering the usual sense of humour by-pass. ;o)

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //The Nobel Prize isn't what it was, is it. It's becoming a bit like Show Biz...... And the award for lifetime achievement (though nobody is too sure what that achievement is) goes to Bruce Forsyth. Or in this case Bob Dylan.

You just have to live long enough and you'll get one eventually. //

I disagree entirely.

You may take issue with the merits of the recipient, but to compare it with any 'showbiz' award is meaningless.

The Nobel Prize in all its facets represents a genuine accolade for the recipient who can be genuinely proud of their achievements.

You may have to produce a lifetime of work to receive the award, hence the age of most recipients, but they never receive it simply for living one day after the other - we all do that.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //Andy. Are you incapable of letting anything go. Why do you think it necessary to give your opinion on every other opinion. //

Because that is how debate in general, and The Answerbank in particular, works. We exchange views and opinions, sometimes on the facts, sometimes on peoples' opinions of the facts.

//Do you think many people care what you think any more. //

On the basis that I enjoy a healthy exchange of posts with a wide variety of AB'ers on an even wider variety of subjects, I would have to say that yes, they do.

// I now generally try to read threads by ignoring any posts you make - life is just too short to bother with the endless going around in circles. //

You've said this before, several times, but your frequent responses to my posts rather contradicts your position.

If you are not reading my posts, you will have no idea what I am saying, or care less about them - but it's clear that you do read, and you do care.

Feel free to stop at any time - advice I have offered several times previously, and which you continue to ignore - and probably will again today.

[andy-hughes]

Case proven m'lud.

[mikey4444]

divebuddy...keen on stifling the debate then it would seem ?

[naomi24]

^Oh gawd! Haven't you two got that room yet?

[jno]

I'm not stopping anyone here debating it, naomi; my reference was to those who might have been in the running for the prize and, supposedly, been aggrieved to have been beaten to it by a mere folk singer. Personally, I have no problem at all with Dylan winning it but I'm interested to hear how others feel.

[naomi24]

jno, //I'm not stopping anyone here debating it, Naomi//

You're confused. I haven't suggested you are.

[jno]

Can't argue there. That's the end of your thread then.

[naomi24]

jno, I know what I said - and I didn't say you were stopping anyone debating. Mikey, on the other hand, said that divebuddy is keen on stifling debate. Perhaps you're getting confused with that.