Another In An Occasional Series On Duplicitous Ministers.

[mikey4444]

Leaked recording shows Theresa May is 'ignoring her own warnings' on Brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/26/leaked-recording-shows-theresa-may-is-ignoring-her-own-warnings-on-brexit

[madiba]

So what's wrong with the pm acceding to the electorate majority ?
Isn't that what democracy is all about ?

[mikey4444]

Flipping heck !

What happened there ....I was only gone for a little while !

Madiba.....I was only pointing out how some people seem to have done a very quick u-turn.

[Old_Geezer]

It is hardly a secret that she was supporting the remain side prior to the referendum; but it will be good is she really does realise that prioritising the single market over the freedom voted for will ensure the situation effectively "falls between 2 stools". It is, after all, just an attempt to avoid exit in all but name, and should not be considered worth touching with a forty foot bargepole.

Nothing the leavers pointed out as being necessary for an independent sovereign nation would be achieved, and yet we would no longer be a full member of the, "Please push us around we aren't capable of ruling ourselves", club. So if she is anything of a national leader she must insist on exiting, as demanded by the referendum result, and then see what new trade arrangement the EU will make with the UK.

It's been pointed out many times before that for all the bluster the existing trade arrangement (sans the four impositions) is of benefit to both groups, the EU more than the UK; so no sane negotiator is going to ruin their sides benefits in a fit of pique; so we can expect the EU to show more sense at the negotiating table than their pre-talk stance to their public indicates.

Therefore abandoning her pre-referendum stance on remaining, along with her fears of everything being doomed, and adopting the best exit stance instead, is exactly what she should be doing.

[Old_Geezer]

...good IF she...

[Mamyalynne]

I think many have been in a state of flux since the vote.

[naomi24]

Mikey, it's not duplicitous. She's doing her job. Would you rather she ignore the result of a democratic vote? Of course you would.

[-Talbot-]

16:10 ... I thought this had been left alone as a 'none story'

Good on her ... she has listened to the majority.

[Orderlimit]

Hard for some to understand maybe, but yes, she is listening to the majority.

[mikey4444]

She has done a u-turn....nothing wrong with that of course, as long as we recognise it for what it is.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //as long as we recognise it for what it is. //

But you don't recognise it for what it is. You're criticising her for conceding to the will of the people.

[Orderlimit]

Perhaps more MP's should/need to do a U-turn (without criticism) and actually do what the people want, or expect !

[jim360]

Depends on what those warnings were and whether they were accurate. I'm all for democracy, but if the PM thought that a democratic decision were genuinely leading the country off the edge of a cliff it seems more than a little irresponsible to carry out that decision so enthusiastically.

I can't help but feel, anyway, that Brexiters are sortof expecting the post-referendum conversation to go like this:

Brexiter: "Let's go this way."
Remainder: "I don't think that's a good idea."
Brexiter 2: "No, I like what the first guy said."
Remainder: "OK then, let's go this way, yay! Such a brilliant idea, I am so pleased you two thought to choose it!!!" *jumps for joy*

[naomi24]

Jim, //if the PM thought that a democratic decision were genuinely leading the country off the edge of a cliff //

Perhaps her thoughts were a little less dramatic.

[ToraToraTora]

have another punnet mikey

[-Talbot-]

Have you got a link to the 'edge of a cliff' thing, Jim?

[Togo]

//I'm all for democracy, but if the PM thought that a democratic decision were genuinely leading the country off the edge of a cliff it seems more than a little irresponsible to carry out that decision so enthusiastically.//

Haha that is the issue for some, they only want their "take" on democracy i.e. none. For my part I don't think Mother Teresa is carrying out the will of the majority enthusiastically enough.