Will It Soon Be "arise Sir Fogle" For Your Work With Charities?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3915184/Fogle-pockets-25-000-fee-dinner-speech-event-raised-4-200-children-s-hospice.html

[jno]

hardly his fault if (a) a charity chooses to spend a lot of money and (b) its guests are tightwads.

[douglas9401]

Or (c), the paper made up the 'quotes' and guessed the rest having been blanked when asking questions.

[jackthehat]

It would be Sir Ben Fogle ......only those crazee yanks insist on calling our Knights of the realm 'Sir (surname)'.

I, too, find the way the article has been reported as slightly disingenuous.

He seems to do more than his fair share for charities so if that results in a Knighthood.... fairy 'nuff.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// only those crazee yanks ///

That is rather a 'racist' or 'xenophobic' (take your pick) thing to say.

[DTCwordfan]

now there's the pot calling the kettle......come off it, AOG, she wrote it tongue in cheek, though I would say a lot of Brits like to brown-nose the Sirs and Lords etc....

[RandyMarsh]

AOG is trying to wind Jack up.

It won't work.

[andy-hughes]

Ben Fogle was paid a fee for work, to which he is entitled.

It may well be that he then donated that fee to the charity, and chose not to self-aggrandise by announcing that fact.

But the point is this - there is not a point at which people should not be paid for what they do, no matter how much money they are worth.

Do you imagine that Paul McCartney rings round his record labels and tells them not to bother paying the royalties he receives when his music is sold?

And why should he?

People are entitled to receive the agreed rate for their labour, and it is up to them to decide what they do with it.

It is not the business of the Mail, or anyone else - except of course that it makes a 'news story' for their readers to get het up about.

[anotheoldgit]

DTCwordfan

/// come off it, AOG, she wrote it tongue in
cheek ///

What just as I would be described as if I had put "those crazee Africans" or those crazee Pakistanis"?

[andy-hughes]

AOG - the use of the term 'craze yanks' is obviously sarcastic, and uses an exaggerated epithet that is often applied to our American friends.

I don't recall ever seeing it referred to any other nationals, so no, your use of it there would not be appropriate in my view.

[Cloverjo]

I don't know how chatting for a couple of hours warrants a fee of £25,000. His agent disputes that however, and it was in the DM, so I'm not going to take too much notice of that.
For all we know he might have donated a big chunk of his fee to the charity.

[DTCwordfan]

read Andy Hughes, AOG......and it may well apply to Ozzies as well, after all they have enough terms of endearment for us, as do the Americans.

[andy-hughes]

Indeed Cloverjo - or all of it, or more - but we will never know.

It is typical of the small-minded Mail reporting to infer that a rich man should not be paid for his work.

It would be interesting to know what proportion of the editorial team's collective income is donated to any charity - but that's not our business, of course.

Oh, hang on ....

[aelmpvw]

i don't see why he shouldn't be knighted, he's done a bit of rowing

[jackthehat]

Deary, deary me.......LoL

You, alone, appear not to have understood why I wrote what I did, AOG.

Still, it's given you an early excuse for you to introduce your usual non-sequiturs into any given argument.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

/// You, alone, appear not to have understood why I wrote what I did, AOG. ///

Same lame excuses.

It seems that it is perfectly in order to insult some nationals or even shorten or describe them in a certain way, but woe betide anyone who dares to do likewise against certain other peoples.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - culture dictates that there are certain standard colloquial expressions used by some races to describe others.

Jack used one of those - it is widely acknowledged and accepted as being jocular and non-offensive.

For some reason, you chose to pick a non-existent argument about using that same expression about other races.

That is meaningless, because people do not use that expression about other races, so your point cannot be explored further.

But you appear still to be looking to make an argument - even though there is none to be had.

Jack's last response is correct - you appear to be the only person who misinterpreted her comment - but I doubt you will get her to rise to the bait of taking this further.

[hc4361]

His pay did not come out of the money raised for the charity.

[hc4361]

There was also a six piece electronic organ playing at the event. I wonder if they got paid?

[andy-hughes]

hc4361 - It is apparent to anyone who knows anything about anything that if a celebrity is booked to speak at a charity event, that his or her fee is not paid by the charity itself.

Nor are the wages and expenses of anyone else involved.

[anotheoldgit]

There are many people who give up their time to work for charities, not only voluntary but a damn sight harder than giving a speech, and all for free.

But are many of them nationally recognised or even awarded in the same way as these so called celebrities?