Min 20Years? Enough For Pre Meditated Murder?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37941236
they could be 35 when they get out. Can they not now be named?

[donny48]

It's a small town and everybody in the town and district know the names.

[Lunol]

"the bulger killers where named. i just think the public have the right to know."

And which "Right" would that be?

Imagine they're named and you've petitioned for this and then the family who have nothing to do with it are attacked or firebombed.

Would you not feel guilty and partly responsible?

This is why they shouldn't be named although their names probably will become common knowledge once their fellow prisoners find out who they are.

Does anyone know whether they're given fake charges and papers so that when fellow prisoners want to confirm what they're in for they're not "Rumbled"?

[ToraToraTora]

listen it's my view, perhaps it's not rational but I do not see why these lowlives should not be named as killers of the past have.

[youngmafbog]

I wonder what Sir Cliffs position is on this?

Seems the BBC didnt get a tip off this time.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - it is indeed your view - and is consistent with posts you usually make when this kind of news item comes in, and you are correct, there is absolutely nothing rational about it.

[youngmafbog]

Well I for one agree with you TTT.

Andy stop taking your usual aloof attitude to views from others. You are NOT always right.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - I am the first to agree that I am not always right.

If Tora is secure in his view, then nothing I can say is going to change that - so I am unsure why you feel the need to defend it for him.

His view is not rational, as he freely admits, but that does not negate his right to hold it, and it does not infer that I think his intellect is inferior because he holds it.

I have said nothing of the kind - so perhaps you could dial your imagination down a touch.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - did you notice that I didn't automatically shoot back the 'I will post what I want and you can't stop me ...' or a message of that type, which is the usual retort of people who want me to stop saying what I believe to be true.

That is because I have a greater sense of personal security, and I don't mind the disapproval of others.

[Old_Geezer]

Perhaps using similar arguments the public never have a right to know the identities of the convicted.