Two 15-Year-Olds Get Life For Murders

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37941236

How on earth could to children so young, commit such deadly acts ?

[anotheoldgit]

Jackdaw33

/// I must admit that at first reading I assumed they were both girls. ///

Why?????

*** Jurors heard that the killers went on to share a bath, have sex, and watch four Twilight vampire films after the murders in Dawson Avenue, Spalding, on 13 April. ***

Yes I know in these enlightened times.

But:

*** Mrs Edwards and her daughter were repeatedly stabbed by the couple, who were described in court as having a Bonnie and Clyde-style relationship ***

*** In court Peter Joyce QC, prosecuting, detailed for the first time the account given by the boy shortly after he was arrested. ***

*** He said the pair had met up and both agreed to kill Mrs Edwards and her daughter after "the girl had asked him to kill both of the victims as she did not like the smell of blood".***

[mikey4444]

AOG...the original BBC report was a news-flash, and didn't mention the sex of the murderers. It was later elaborated when it went from "Breaking" to a full news article.

[jno]

unusual, as the judge says, but not unique.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker%E2%80%93Hulme_murder_case

Oneof those, you'll note is now a well-known crime writer. The other runs a riding school. Both are apparently changed people. Young people are seldom irredeemable.

[Jackdaw33]

Thank you Mikey.

[mikey4444]

jno....I remember the film, with Kate Winslet.

[mikey4444]

No problems Jack...we should agree more often !

[EDDIE51]

The 'normal' sentence for a murder committed by a child is 12 years
They have got nearly double that, so I think there is no way anyone can say the sentence is too lenient. Also it is a 'minimum' sentence of 20 years almost unheard of it a case where a child has committed murder! As the judge says , in this case life could mean life.
Of course there are those on AB who would not be happy unless they were hung drawn and quartered in public and their remains fed to pigs !

[hereIam]

^ Who would that be ??

[mikey4444]

Eddie....the "hang 'em high" brigade are well in evidence on here this afternoon.

[Lunol]

What's the back story with these kids? In care? parents on drugs and the kids left to run riot? Does anyone know?

[Lunol]

Not that it's a reason, I just want to know how you go from a "Normal" teen to a violent psychopathic murderer.

[hereIam]

Where does anyone say 'hang 'em high' ??

[mikey4444]

Lunol....I asked the same answer earlier.

I find it difficult, not to say impossible, to believe that two "ordinary" children could do something like this.

[piggynose]

so an eye for an eye , a tooth for a tooth.

[andy-hughes]

Lunol - I think the process is long and complex, and works in a family where normal concepts of family life are absent by a very long way.

[EDDIE51]

Lunol, if anyone knew that , we could prevent something like this from ever happening again. It has baffled the best brains in medicine, justice and psychiatry.

[andy-hughes]

mikey - //I find it difficult, not to say impossible, to believe that two "ordinary" children could do something like this. //

Obviously they are far from 'normal' by any standard measure of the term, but how they became so is unlikely to be something the public are given access to.

[cassa333]

I very briefly saw an item on the news this evening and a neighbour of the boy said that he would punch anyone who 'looked at him wrong'.

That tells you something about him.

[EDDIE51]

hereIam, Welcome to AB . Once you have been a member for a few more months you will know who the 'Hang em High' brigade are!

[mikey4444]

Cassa...I saw that as well this evening and it would seem to tell a story.