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Do you think Ed is correct when he says:
"If we cede the field and we say 'we're the people who want to reverse the result', then there are two choices in Britain: hard, destructive Brexit, or reversing the result. I know what's going to win - hard Brexit's going to win." ?
Do you think Ed is correct when he says:
"If we cede the field and we say 'we're the people who want to reverse the result', then there are two choices in Britain: hard, destructive Brexit, or reversing the result. I know what's going to win - hard Brexit's going to win." ?
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Difficult to see what a second referendum would achieve. I'm sure I said all this months ago, but if the question is on a specific deal then rejecting the deal still leaves us out of the EU; and anyway it would be asked after Article 50 had been triggered. I am not sure how a second referendum would fit into that, legally. Not very comfortably, anyway.
I'm all for proper process to be followed, and I hope too that the phrase "we have to leave the EU now come what may" isn't some sort of harbinger of doom, but in practice you have to agree with Ed on this. A second referendum just don't make sense.
Difficult to see what a second referendum would achieve. I'm sure I said all this months ago, but if the question is on a specific deal then rejecting the deal still leaves us out of the EU; and anyway it would be asked after Article 50 had been triggered. I am not sure how a second referendum would fit into that, legally. Not very comfortably, anyway.
I'm all for proper process to be followed, and I hope too that the phrase "we have to leave the EU now come what may" isn't some sort of harbinger of doom, but in practice you have to agree with Ed on this. A second referendum just don't make sense.
I keep castigating this notion of “Hard Brexit” and “Soft Brexit”. The country voted to leave the EU (please, Eddie, don’t harp on about only 52% of 72% voted to leave, etc.). The vote was to leave. You cannot half leave; a woman cannot be slightly pregnant. You are in or you are out. We will be out. Why on earth the EU should allow us access to their Single Market (unless it suits them) is a little unclear. The Single Market is not all it’s cracked up to be anyway, but there is absolutely no way that the UK should involve itself in any deal which will mean the country is forcibly influenced by the EU or any of its institutions. The vote was to leave and we should not expect to retain any of the advantages (such that exist) of EU membership. We simply relate to the EU in the same way as normal countries that are not members do. It’s not all that complicated really.
There is bound to be economic turbulence as investors overreact to change for a while. But that cost of their actions affecting national economies settles down and we are all the better for the change afterwards, once we've negotiated new trade agreements. References to "hard" and "soft" are not so much linked to economic issues as they are with avoiding an exit in any real manner. It's about whether we truly get out or merely change the name of our status and yet still have the same unreasonable impositions affecting our control of our own nation.
The single EU market is the same as any market worldwide. We negotiate a trade deal. If we don't we use the same principles as with other countries. It's not rocket science. Especially for the people that do this sort of thing all the time.
EM has stated the bleeding obvious and I hope the dissension in the remain realms take note. They are coming out with different ideas and reasons and contradicting each other on what they want and how they want to do it.
On here some talk of Bretix being mismanaged and a farce and such. Pot, kettle and black come to mind!
EM has stated the bleeding obvious and I hope the dissension in the remain realms take note. They are coming out with different ideas and reasons and contradicting each other on what they want and how they want to do it.
On here some talk of Bretix being mismanaged and a farce and such. Pot, kettle and black come to mind!
