We've Had The Earthquake.......now For The Tidal Wave!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/740562/European-Union-VoteWatch-populist-victories-EU-leaders-act
Was brexit the the beginning of the end for the despised EU?

[Mamyalynne]

Blasted weather!

[DTCwordfan]

Let's do a quick trade deal to secure their wines, grappas, amarettos, truffles, pasta, cheeses, parma hams, basalmics, olive oils and other 'services' inc the Berlusconi gals, duty free.

[New Judge]

One can only but hope, 3Ts, one can only but hope.

The problem is there are only five nations (soon to be four) of the 28 who are net contributors. All the rest are beneficiaries. They are unlikely to bring down the goose that lays their golden eggs. But that said, there is little doubt that following our departure, if one or two of the other major players quit then the entire pack of cards may begin to tumble. Next year will hopefully see some profound changes among the leadership of some nations and I think by this time next year the political complexion of the EU will look considerably different.

The biggest problem is the utter intransigence of the Euromaniacs. None of them will stand up and admit to the many mistakes they have made (in particular the euro and the Schengen Agreement). So blinded are they by their wretched “European Project” and so sheltered are they from the harsh reality that they have imposed on some of the member nations that they simply refuse to accept what they call “popularism” (aka people opposing their Utopian views).

I think it will not be too long before events concerning the euro get the better of them. Italy is in dire straits, locked into a currency that it cannot afford to use and which it cannot afford to lose. Something will have to give. If Italy leaves the Eurozone I think that may well spell the beginning of the end for what is the biggest disaster visited upon the people of Europe since WW2.

[jourdain2]

Really, really hope so. We need to sort ourselves out fast so the other countries ally with us.

[jim360]

Ah yes, then perhaps we could have some sort of Union of countries, centred mostly around Europe possibly.

[mikey4444]

DTC....Grappa ?....the devils urine !

[youngmafbog]

You may jest jim, but why not?

There is merit in having a union, it is when that union grows into an uncontrollable and unaccountable beast for elitists who want their snout deep in the trough that the problem comes.

A union of sovereign countries without interference of each other is definitely beneficial. Problem is; that is how it started out and now look where we are.

[jourdain2]

Been out all day Jim. Independent, sovereign nations sign alliances. That does not mean that the countries they ally with can influence the internal workings of another country. It has worked well for hundreds of years.

[New Judge]

“Independent, sovereign nations sign alliances. That does not mean that the countries they ally with can influence the internal workings of another country.”

Absolutely, jourdain. Camouflaged by all the talk of the “Single Market”, the “Customs Union”, “Tariffs”, “Barriers” and all the other issues surrounding trade there is the little matter of sovereignty. And this goes to the heart of why many people voted to Leave. No country outside the EU would even consider succumbing to the conditions placed upon EU nations ostensibly so that they may trade feely. Can you imagine the USA signing a Treaty with Canada, Mexico, Panama, Colombia, Paraguay, Chile, Argentina plus a few Central American nations that allow barrier free trade between them?

“Oh, and by the way, you must agree to free movement of people between all the countries and, since the USA is well off, it will pay hefty subsidies to all the others. Oh and I forgot, you’ll have to ditch the Dollar, start using a single currency called the Americo which all those countries will share. It will have a Central Bank in Nicaragua and its exchange rate and interest rate will be determined by people over whom you have no control. And one more thing, any disputes over the rules of the bloc will be settled in a court in Bogota”. Yeah, right. Sound ridiculous, but that is what the situation in the EU is. I explained this to a Canadian couple whom I met on holiday last winter. They could not understand why there was such anti-EU sentiment in the UK. When I explained using my example I'm not sure they believed I was telling the truth.

Conditions imposed as part of EU membership long since ceased being anything to do with trade. They are simply designed to establish a single sovereign state known as the EU. Hopefully enough people elsewhere in Europe have tumbled the Euro maniacs’ plan and will bring it down before it really is too late.