10 Years? They're Having A Turkish!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38324146
10 kin minutes! What's to talk about? trade or not? You impose tariffs so do we end of! I don't get what could possible take any time.

[TheChair]

//I don't get what could possible take any time.//

Seems to me there's awful lot you don't get, but it doesn't stop you constantly mouthing off as though you actually knew something.

[ToraToraTora]

care to enlighten me with your wisdom then?

[dannyk13]

He's having a stir.Probably a Remainiac.

[andy-hughes]

It took Canada twelve years to get their negations finalised, so ten years might be seen as positively speedy!

[ToraToraTora]

what's to negotiate though? here's me, we are off we are happy to trade as now. EU we are not. Me, ok do your worst we'll mirror your tariffs. End of.

[hereIam]

I'm pretty sure it won't take that long, scaremongers having a field day again !

[jno]

From the Guardian:

When Greenland, a country with a population smaller than that of Uxbridge and an economy based essentially on a single industry (fishing), withdrew from the EU in 1985, it took three years to negotiate its future relationship with the bloc.

Or are you suggesting the UK just dumps a market of 750 million people?

[ToraToraTora]

No, I'm wondering if the EU wants to dump us as a market.

[jno]

they're in a better position to say "OK, bye-bye" than Britain is.

[ToraToraTora]

to me though jno, the fact that a tiny country like Greenland with half a dozen fishing boats wanted to leave the EU speaks volumes.

[youngmafbog]

Why are they in a better position? The amount we export to the EU is less than we import. Impose standard tariffs as per WTO and just go from there. If EU prices go up then maybe UK produce will be more viable particularly on food so we can reduce food miles. Got to be good.

A trade deal is still a tariff, just the Government pays for it with OUR taxes.

Like TTT says, no need for a deal of any kind. Most UK businesses dont export and will be release from the mandatory EU red tape. Got to be good.

[Old_Geezer]

They can drag out new trade agreements as long as they wish. It benefits no one but if the EU is in a vengeful mood then maybe they will opt to delay things for all. In the meanwhile we'll be forming agreements elsewhere in the world anyway.

[jno]

well, (a) leaving for them was partly a kind of secession, so it might be the equivalent of Scotland deciding to stay. (b) it was about fishing rights - they thought they'd lose them under the EU. And (c) because it's still Danish, the people are still EU citizens.

How relevant that is for the UK's situation is anybody's guess.

[Old_Geezer]

Trading under WTO rules in the meanwhile hardly counts as "dumping a market". It just means exporters have to try harder and increase perceived value/quality.

[KARL]

Some believe the UK is about to become the Kingdom of Heaven and that, like the USA sees itself, it will have to fight off hordes of individuals and entire nations wishing to get a whiff of the miracle. Those who don't share these expectations expect the UK to not only bump along as the backward unit it is (high teens and lower on the lists of socio-economic comparison which are published elsewhere but ignored in the UK - too uncomfortable contradiction with the perception ?) but possibly/probably to sink even lower. There is little point in sounding off before the process has even started but instead we should all wait a decade or so after Brexit is enacted and then see how it looks - unless there is a realistic possibility of an unknown genius having the perfect solution which everyone in charge is too thick or incompetent to see.

[Zacs-Master]

Tora, your OP is just more evidence that you hadn't a clue what you were voting for.

[New Judge]

“It took Canada twelve years to get their negations finalised, so ten years might be seen as positively speedy!”

Exactly. Politicians (and their Learned Friends) revel in prevarication, complication and prolonged negotiation. It makes the politicians feel important and M’Learned Friends wealthy. During the twelve years mentioned, life went on and business went on with it (the UK, by the way, developing to become Canada’s biggest export market in Europe, despite the "disadvantage" of there being no trade agreement between us).

Anything to do with the EU takes 28 times as long as anything else. This is because all 28 members have to debate, discuss, agree, disagree, modify, abolish and veto every full stop and comma changed in any agreement. By the time a UK:EU trading agreement is reached (if it ever is) the EU will have lost large amounts of trade and the UK will have forged agreements with other nations (which it cannot do at present). So it’s not a big deal. So long as we (a) cease paying for the EU circus and (b) cease to be subject to any of its rules then it does not matter too much about the rest. Life will go on, business and trade will go on (but I’m not too sure about the EU itself).

“When Greenland, a country with a population smaller than that of Uxbridge and an economy based essentially on a single industry (fishing), withdrew from the EU in 1985, it took three years to negotiate its future relationship with the bloc. “

Which proves my point precisely. Business cannot fanny about for years on end waiting for politicians and lawyers to improve their kudos and bank balances. Life goes on despite politicians, not because of them. The EU is probably about the most sclerotic and moribund major organisation on earth. It is not fit or the 21st century (and it is my view that it was not fit for the late 20th either) and nobody would miss it too much (apart from the people drawing huge wheelbarrows of cash from it) if it ceased to exist tomorrow. They've simply been taught to believe otherwise.

[New Judge]

"Tora, your OP is just more evidence that you hadn't a clue what you were voting for."

And I imagine neither did I. :-)