This

[-Talbot-]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/04/facebook-live-video-shows-disabled-man-tied-up-beaten-as-captors-yell-f-white-people.html


I've been waiting for a more acceptable news media to cover this (BBC, SKY Guardian etc) but there seems little interest in it.


If 4 White people abduct disabled Clinton supporting black man and torture him and stream it live on Facebook it would be be viral in minutes ... wouldn't it?

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, thanks. I thought I remembered you mentioning it.

[-Talbot-]

Why do you pretend to then andy?
You keep on saying I'm attacking you ... ?

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - //Why do you pretend to then andy? //

Pretend to what Talbot?

// You keep on saying I'm attacking you ... //

Because you keep doing it.

[-Talbot-]

Interesting post @ 11:42 Thu 05th Jan 2017 andy


You have accused me of being angry (which I'm not and never am)

Yet in this post it seems that it is you that is needled

andy-hughes

anneasquith - You could always save your time - Talbot is an expert at needling and insulting people, and then doing a wide-eyed shrug as though he has no idea why people are picking him up on it.

[andy-hughes]

Talbot - you have managed to narrow down your own thread to yet another pointless exchange with me.

I am not willing to facilitate you in boring the rest of the AB community, and possibly getting your rather random thread pulled - even though it has clearly run out of steam.

So I will withdraw, and I expect this peculiar directionless thread to die a natural death, and this example of your petty squabbling with it, which is exactly what both deserve.

[-Talbot-]

Before you go just ask yourself

is it Talbot or andy-hughes that keeps getting into yet another pointless exchange with ... (insert name) ?

[-Talbot-]

mikey4444
Talbot....You asked a question about whether its a hate crime and we all answered YES.



Funny how the Chicago Police have up till now refused to say it is a hate crime. I have just listened to two very nice peeps on CNN say it is neither a political or racial crime.

Kromo?

[anotheoldgit]

I have read all 88 posts so far, and come to the conclusion that the usual suspects have once again chosen to shoot the messenger rather than to address this despicable political and racist crime committed against an innocent disabled white person.

And yes I agree if the roles had been reversed and the victim had been a disabled black man attacked by a group of white thugs, a thread on it would have soon appeared on AB, and one can guess who the poster would have been.

Why, one has only to go back to the less serious Paris train racist crime thread to highlight just what I mean.

[Islay]

AOG I fail to see where anyone has shot the messenger.

Could you please highlight this for us dimmer users?

[anneasquith]

I've obviously not read the same 88 posts that AOG has . !!!!!!

[mikey4444]

AOG....perhaps you had better go back to the original thread on the Paris Metro.....here it is :::::

You poured cold water on the very idea that that this chap had been racially verbally assaulted, and yet a French court has now proven that he was, and sentenced the 4 football hooligans accordingly.

Most other people on that thread, if not all of them, realised right from the start what the situation was, but you preferred your ludicrous own theory.

Even Talbot refused to side with you on that thread !

People in glass houses AOG !

[anotheoldgit]

Islay

/// AOG I fail to see where anyone has shot the messenger. ///

/// Could you please highlight this for us dimmer users? ///

Certainly for you and any other dimmer users (your words not mine)

Maybe not literally 'shot' the messenger, but used up a great deal of this thread attacking the messenger ie Talbot.

[Garaman]

It is a hideous racist crime, but I don’t read anyone saying it isn’t.

My understanding of the term ‘going viral’ is that it means being passed from one internet user to another, so is the question whether more computer users would pass on a video of a racial attack on a black person than one on a white person? I have no idea but don’t really see why that would be the case.

[-Talbot-]

Garaman
It is a hideous racist crime, but I don’t read anyone saying it isn’t.







Chicago Police Department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said Thursday morning that the four black suspects made "terrible racist statements" during the assault but that police believe the victim was targeted because he has "special needs," not because of his race.

[Garaman]

I meant on here really, Talbot, as you seemed to be annoyed with some responses. Whether or not the original intention was racist, it was a racial crime in the end.

I posted really as I am interested why you think fewer people would pass on this video than one which portrayed a black person being racially attacked. I am struggling to understand why that would be.

[naomi24]

Garaman, may I suggest you consider that when a white man gets shot we don’t see social unrest, or the rise of organisations called something like 'White Lives Matter’. Such incidents don't usually generate similar outrage.

[Garaman]

I accept that of course, Naomi, but I was just referring to numbers who hear about something, or see a video, as opposed to how they react to it. I don't profess to know, but would be surprised to find that far fewer people know about this than would have known were the victim black. The reaction would have been different I don't doubt, but that is not what I am saying.

[Orderlimit]

This is real racism, not the racism of our usual suspects on here. These animals should be sent to 20 yrs hard labour