Churchill's Bust In The White House

[sp1814]

Why is this such a big deal?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/24/winston-churchill-bust-set-oval-office-return-donald-trump/

[anotheoldgit]

Respect and admiration for a great British leader, and to cement the relationship that our two great countries once had for each other, before the Obama regime took over, and we 'went to the back of the queue'.

[webbo3]

What Obama thinks of the British.
First this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554310/Obama-admits-removed-bust-Churchill-Oval-Office.html


Then "back of the queue"



Dave.

[sp1814]

But there's already a bust in the White House.

The one that Trump says he is going to reinstate was only ever on loan to the Bush administration.

I appears that this is being spun as a snub by Obama, when it was only supposed to be in the White House for the first Bush term (and then got extended to eight when Bush was re-elected).

[-Talbot-]

Have you asked yourself why Obama had it removed, sp?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

Because it was on loan.

It wasn't his to keep.

He had another bust. An identical one, right outside his private residence, which he saw every day.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

The bust in the Oval Office was replaced with on of Martin Luther King, which to me - seems much more appropriate, given the efforts made by Dr. King the Civil Rights movement meant that someone like Obama could rise to become President.

[-Talbot-]

Nope, he didn't want his office to look cluttered.

[Togo]

Trump has outraged the Obama administration by ordering the removal of a portrait of Nelson Mandela from the White House. A spokesman says he was a little mixed up and thought it was a picture of a Nissan Main Dealer. (works better said aloud) (^_*)

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

The bust was on loan. It wasn't his to keep.

He could have moved the other one into the Oval Office, but then he would have one of MLK *and* Winston Churchill.

Also, in the highest office of state, it probably makes sense to have American figures represented.

If you walked into the cabinet office in Downing Street, and saw a bust of Franklin Roosevelt, you'd think, "Eh???"

[sp1814]

Togo

Once I stop groaning, I will consider that as Best Answer.

[-Talbot-]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-explains-winston-churchills-bust-removed-oval/story?id=38602120

[ToraToraTora]

"Why is this such a big deal?" - if you have to ask you can not possibly understand.

[sp1814]

TTT

And sure that's the whole reason for asking questions on AB?

[ToraToraTora]

yes but normally the poser of a question is able to comprehend the answer. This is not one of those occasions.

[sp1814]

TTT

But my point is - there's already another bust.

So why is the removal of one loaned to the Bush administration, which was reclaimed when his time was up a big deal?

[-Talbot-]

When was it reclaimed?

[hereIam]

Togo - tee hee ...

[Zacs-Master]

I think the assumption that it's a big deal has to be challenged. Even the article reads 'However, one expected action is likely to be less controversial'.

[Togo]

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy… A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Perhaps Obama had it removed because of the above Churchill quote. Whilst Obama himself of course said “the future must not belong to slander the prophet of Islam.”