No Contest For Smug &^%$ Of The Year Award!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4154094/What-s-truth-Gina-Miller.html

[New Judge]

Yes sorry, Zacs, "...she believed there was a chance it would be derailed".

As it happens I believe she is wrong (and the Supreme Court decision reinforces my belief). It's simply her insincerity with which I take issue. If she had simply said "I don't agree with the referendum result, I want to see it thwarted and I will do everything I can to see that it is" I would have no argument. Instead of that she spouts a load a insincere claptrap to add a modicum of respectability to her campaign.

If she respected the referendum result she would not have taken the action she did. But she clearly does not respect decisions made by the ordinary people.

[Zacs-Master]

The flip side of your opinion on why she did it is:

She wanted to prove that the government were incompetent and she wanted to prove, as a non politician, that Democracy was being eroded without due course to the law (as has been proven by the judges ruling).

[New Judge]

I think it was the previous Prime Minister and his Cabinet who were incompetent when framing the referendum bill. Ms Miller was not needed to prove that. But I think we'll have to agree to differ on the reason behind her motives.

[Zacs-Master]

Ms Miller is one of the main reasons we know the last Govt were incompetent. Without her we might have ended up in even more of a mess when it became apparent the unlawful course of action that was being taken. Surely as a man of the law you appreciate that?

Brexiters and remoaners should actually be uniting and letting the Govt know, in no uncertain terms, that we have no confidence in them but we'd rather bite chunks out of each other whilst they make even more of a dogs dinner of the whole scenario.

[vortex]

Zacs-Master //Without her we might have ended up in even more of a mess when it became apparent the unlawful course of action that was being taken. //

Now wouldn't that have made a bigger story! We will never know how thankful we should be as a nation! ;-)

[Zacs-Master]

It would have been an enormous story and the EU would be laughing themselves silly at us.

[vortex]

^ mind you Zacs-Master, the EU do a good job of making themselves a laughing stock but I think you make a valid point.

[Zacs-Master]

No argument there.

[Peter Pedant]

// If she respected the referendum result she would not have taken the action she did. But she clearly does not respect decisions made by the ordinary people// NJ

is this really a judge commenting ?
too much port after a good dindins is my diagnosis

there is this thing called - the rule of Law ....
Tom Bingham wrote a good book about it

Ministers cant unmake laws with a stroke of the pen ( I have never liked the Henry VIII clauses that are in some modern statutes ) and as far as I am concerned a blardy good job too

[New Judge]

The case needed to be brought for the law to be tested. If it hadn't been brought no conflict would have to have been adjudicated on. I really don't know how much more I can say so I think I'll go to bed.

No Port tonight, Peter. It's Wednesday :-)

[vortex]

NJ //so I think I'll go to bed...No Port tonight//

Any port in a storm ;-)

[THECORBYLOON]

If TTT is up to high doh now, what like will he be during the coming months and years of negotiations following the triggering of Article 50?