Members Of Yet Another Rotherham Sex Gang Jailed For A Total Of 80 Years.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4184966/Child-sex-gang-members-shout-Allahu-Akbar-court.html

It was reported that they shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as they were sent down, should they have been returned and had their sentences increased?

[hc4361]

Is it offensive or threatening? No different to defendants who tell the judge that only God can judge them.

This was reported yesterday - I hope they get similar sentences

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4183896/Child-prostitution-gang-forced-girls-sleep-50-men.html

[andy-hughes]

The law does not take the religious affiliations of convicted prisoners into account when sentencing.

So that means you can't increase the sentence for a man just because he shouts a slogan that is at odds with your own particular religious prejudices.

As I have said many times, the law stands apart from such personal animosities - that allows it to function fairly and correctly

[mikey4444]

For the record, I deplore this kind of sexual abuse, committed by anybody, including these Muslim men.

[ToraToraTora]

"god" is seems is deemed great but does he condone sexual abuse?

[mikey4444]

"God" doesn't exist TTT, so the question is kind-of academic.

[jackthehat]

These odious individuals will, at least, be isolated from decent society for many years.
It is doubtful whether those years will see any adjustment or improvement in their attitudes towards women...

[Bazile]

They might find that isn't all they will be shouting in prison , when they are requested to be nice to someone 'requesting a favour '

[ToraToraTora]

I agree mikey but I'm jjst wondering what these lowlives imagine god thinks of sexual abuse.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - When you believe in a god, it's the simplest thing on earth to think that every vile and horrible thing you do and say is sanctioned by your god because he thinks its a good idea.

That gives you carte blanche to be the most dreadful human being you can, and bask in a wonderful warmth of self-righteousness.

Religion - what can go wrong ...

[mikey4444]

TTT....if religious people can believe in the drivel that they do, then it must be a very small step, for a minority to think that their God sanctions the depravity.

[mikey4444]

Andy....our replies crossed in the post !

[andy-hughes]

fender - //islam is the problem..some of it's adherents cannot contain themselves, their book gives them the green light, if you don't believe me read the koran //

Islam is not the problem - it's the fact that, like any organisation, it provides an umbrella for people who behave badly to shelter under.

That applies whether it's Muslim men abusing girls, or Christian men abusing boys - as we are debating on another thread.

People don't actually need an excuse to behave appallingly, but if there is one there, and religion fits the bill - they'll take it.

[Khandro]

ttt; //
"god" is seems is deemed great but does he condone sexual abuse? ''

I don't personally think so, but many Muslims do, because their prophet, Mohammad, was a paedophile, having 'married' and had sex with a 9 year old girl and it's all in the Koran so it has to be true.
He also, by the way, told his followers that Allah had told him that they could have up to 4 wives, but he (Allah) had also said that it was OK for him to have 9, because he was a special case.

[Canary42]

"... an umbrella for people who behave badly to shelter under"

Like the Daily Mail does for Islamophobes ?

[andy-hughes]

Canary - //"... an umbrella for people who behave badly to shelter under"

Like the Daily Mail does for Islamophobes ? //

Pretty much, yeah.

[andy-hughes]

jordyboy - you have c & p'd my post, but not added anything - is there a bit missing?

[naomi24]

TTT, //"god" is seems is deemed great but does he condone sexual abuse? //

Allah does.

andy-hughes, //Islam is not the problem //

It is.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - //andy-hughes, //Islam is not the problem //

It is. //

I would disagree.

There are millions of peaceful Muslims living in the world, untouched by the nonsense spouted by fanatics, and the acts they perpetuate.

You know as well as I do, that if a cult arose tomorrow where people derived messages to kill unbelievers from the pages of the Manchester telephone directory, there would be people doing just that by mid-day.

The urge to inflict harm and death on others is simply part of the psyche of some human beings. If they can find a hook to hang it on - Islam, Christianity, the telephone directory, then all well and good.

But blaming the religion for death is like blaming a gun - it's down to what is done with it that is the issue.