Labour Hold Stoke, Right Wing Vote Split

[Jackdaw33]

As expected.

[Garaman]

Nigel Farage had the decency to admit that the Leave campaign's slogan 'Let's give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week' was a mistake. Sad that others can't be so honest.

[mikey4444]

UKIP....Honest ?

If you insist Garaman !

The £350M was just another lie, scattered amongst all the other scare tactics that the Leave campaign used, and people fell for it.

[mushroom25]

//Victory for the Tories in the Lakes //

when did Whitehaven and Egremont move into the lake district?????

[mikey4444]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-nigel-farage-nhs-350-million-pounds-live-health-service-u-turn-a7102831.html

[DTCwordfan]

The Cumbrian area is often referred to as the Lakes. Unless Egremont, Whitehaven or Workington have been elsewhere, they are an integral part of the area. Copeland also covers a good chunk of Lakeland.

[douglas9401]

Let's move the discussion along then. How long can that nice man with the beard and his frothy-mouthed camp followers hang on to the leadership of t'Labour Party?

[mikey4444]

Dougie....Corbyn has been elected as Labour Leader, not once but twice, overwhelmingly on both occasions.

For years, people have been saying that there isn't enough difference between the serious Party's here in Britain, So now Labour has put clear blue water between themselves and the Tories. And it seemed to work yesterday in Stoke !

[EDDIE51]

People vote UKIP due to Xenophobia , racism and hatred of immigrants no use trying to pretend it is anything other!

[Deskdiary]

"Low turnout in both by-elections. Victory for the Tories in the Lakes but a defeat for them in Stoke. Most importantly, UKIP left with egg on its face yet again."

UKIP losing was not the most important thing last night - the most important thing (two things actually) was (1) Labour lost a seat they've held for 80 years, and therefore by definition was a safe seat, and (2) a Government has seat in a by-election for the first time in 35 years.

Surely even the most rabid of Labour supporters must now have a begrudging inkling that all the time Corbyn is at the helm they are, for want of a better word, ***d.

[mikey4444]

DeskDiary....on the contrary, UKIP losing in both by-elections, especially Stoke where their new but somewhat temporary Leader stood, was very important. It certainly showed that the voters of Stoke are not keen on being led to.

UKIP has been promising to "break the mould of Politics in Britain" for years, but while they enthuse the xenophobic and racist, as Eddie has said, they still fail to persuade.

If Corbyn was so unpopular, Labour would have lost both elections yesterday. Instead they won one, but the Tories lost the other.

[ichkeria]

If Paul Nuttall really said 'we're going nowhere' then that's the truest thing he's said in a while. He might have added the word 'fast'

[webbo3]

I think there should be a rerun, the labour voter clearly didn't understand what they were voting for.


Dave.

[Deskdiary]

I didn't say it wasn't important - but it wasn't the most important outcome of last night.

UKIP lost, probably, because Nuttall was proven to be a liar.

Labour lost a safe seat - suggesting Corbyn's popularity is OK because they held onto a seat where the opposition candidate lied, and glossing over the more important result last night, is spin.

[mikey4444]

Where did the Labour voters not understand what they were voting for Dave ?

There was clearly not enough xenophobic and racists voters in Stoke, and even less in Copeland.

[mikey4444]

DeskD....there were two results last night and the Tories lost one, and UKIP lost both....how is that "spin" ?

[webbo3]

So the people that voted out are racist and xenophobic mikey, this comes from a labour supporter with Diane Abbott in their ranks.

Dave.

[naomi24]

Mikey, Labour held on to a safe seat but with a reduced majority, and the Conservatives took a seat that Labour has, until now, held forever. Some achievement! Perhaps you should stop worrying about UKIP and look closer to home.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

Nigel or anyone else pledged that the £10 billion, would be spent on the NHS, only that it would be nice if it were to be.

From the 'Independent'????? link that you provided.

/// “Do you know what I’d like to do with the £10 billion? I’d like that £10 billion to be spent helping the communities in Britain that [the] Government damaged so badly by opening up the doors to former communist countries. What people need is schools, hospitals, and GPs. That’s what they
need.” ///

Almost the same as saying "I would like the money we spend on overseas aid spent on our NHS".

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444
/// And it seemed to work yesterday in Stoke ! ///

Stop blowing Labour's trumpet, Stoke was a safe Labour seat.

[Zacs-Master]

apart from the 'schools' bit.