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Gromit | 20:46 Tue 07th Mar 2017 | News
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Police failed to search the waste site near to where he was last seen because they said the bin lorry payload was only 15 kilograms (33 lb).

I always thought that was a mistake. Why would a bin lorry make a 26 mile round trip if it was empty?

Now, 6 months later, the Police now say it wasn't empty after all.

Has this investigation been a farce from the start?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39200319
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Another police cock-up? Devastating for his family.
I understand that the search of the landfill site is still on-going.

It was obvious months ago that this search needed to have been made, but the Police did indeed cock it up. If he was in the bin lorry, then it is just conceivable that if the search had been made much sooner, he might have been found alive.

Its difficult to imagine how much more inept the Police could have been in this case.

But who was arrested the other day and why ? It would appear from the very sketchy details on the above link, that he may have been involved somehow with the bin lorry.
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// I understand that the search of the landfill site is still on-going. //

It hasn't started yet. Starts next week.
Apparently all the waste is incinerated before burial, so any evidence went up in smoke 6 months ago.
not knowing a thing about this

I reckoned the driver falsified the weight of the lorry - for what ever reason ( I mean it could have been something as simple as saving on land fill charges) and then was caught out with the observation that the dead man really HAD to have been on it

oo-er I am glad I dont drive.....

and six weeks have been utterly wasted ....
Gromit....I wasn't aware that all the waste is incinerated before burial, and this has never been mentioned before.

How do you now this for a fact ?
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Apologies Mikey.

What I actually read was

// Nothing was spotted at the waste sorting site, where its incinerators burn at 1,100C – too low to destroy bones which break down at 1,600C. //

Slightly different from what I wrote above.
Him being in the bin lorry is the only thing that makes sense.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-39200319

His Mum has now said that she is devastated by this latest news. It now appears that the original evidence of the weight of the bin lorry was false, and that the lorry weighed over 100kg (15st 10lb), not the 11kg that was first thought.

Its obvious to me that he as in that bin lorry, alive, and taken to the landfill site.

Horrible realisation, that if this was known last September, he may have been found alive.
Pretty much as I wrote on AB a while ago. It was obvious this was the only solution.

Odd about the weight though, usually the weight is taken before you go in then again when you leave (Always has been when I have dumped commercial weight). The refuse company take the weighings not the driver. Maybe carts have a scale on them but it wouldnt be accurate more to ensure the lorry didnt run too heavy on the road I would have thought.
YMB....I am not sure how big this bin lorry is.

Its bin day today here at home and a huge Biffa lorry has just trundled around my housing estate, as usual. But I am guessing that the bin lorry that collected refuse from the area at the back of Greggs last September, wasn't this type, but something much smaller.
Commercial bins are different to household ones so it's very likely it's a different type of vehicle.
I've just been reading this story on another site and so many things don't add up. He drive his car into town that night - why? He was planning to drink all night so couldn't drive it home. The bin they emptied was waste paper/ cardboard - that would never have been taken to landfill as it was recyclable. Why did he not just call a cab home after he'd drank enough? He was an imacculate dresser so why would he climb into a bin?
Gromit....thanks for your clarification of the incineration issue.
I had small nightmares just thinking about that !
Smow - on many occasions I've drove into town leaving my car behind. The car park I used was free until 12 noon on a Sunday.

And drunk people do daft things.


///why would he climb into a bin?///

Because he was drunk??
Am just pointing out what questions were raised. Either way don't think we will ever really know what happened
No...but we know his phone was in a vehicle.
the chap arrested I think was the bin lorry driver ? ..must have lied about weigh in of vehicle ? gone strangely quiet on that front
Smow....I think have moved in those questions.

He was very, very drunk. He was seen by CCTV going around the town and the last sighting of him was going into the service area at the rear of Greggs. There is no sighting of him leaving that area, so we must assume that he carried out of the area, whilst concealed in some way.

The issue of being well dressed is entirely unimportant...when people are that drunk, they do things that are not normally in character. He may have fallen into the refuse container, trying to find food, of he may just have gone in, looking for somewhere to sleep.

I repeat, drunk people don't always act rationally.

All the bin lorrys would have gone to the landfill site.
They said the man arrested wasn't the bin lorry driver. Wouldn't the truck be weighed and the weight recorded on arrival at the depot by someone other than the driver?

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