Another Scottish Referendum Thread

[cassa333]

Of all the bits I have read about another Scottish independence referendum has said the Scott's are not interested in another referendum but this BBC link seems to be saying that people thinkindependence is a possibility is at its highest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39265997

One day yes another day no.

Aside my views on independence I think they should wait for at least three years after Brexit has happened. They don't actually know which side their toast is best buttered just yet and a little patience goes a long way.

[steg]

Absolutely nothing to do with "toast", or "butter" it's about choosing our own direction/ future

[mikey4444]

I am not in favour of Scotland's independence at all, but if its what they want, why should we deny them the opportunity ?

Now that Britain as a whole, has gone for BREXIT, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me, that they should be given a new Ref.....after all BREXIIT will change everything.

[Buenchico]

A problem with carrying out surveys on people's views about independence is that it's easy to mix up what people would like in an ideal world and what they regard as a political reality.

Based upon the views of the Scots I know, it seems likely that, at the time of the last referendum, the vast majority (well over 90%) would have answered 'Yes' to the question "Would you like Scotland to be an independent nation?" but that (as shown in the referendum result) only a minority would have answered 'Yes' to the question "Do you believe that it's actually possible for Scotland to thrive as an independent nation?"

[cassa333]

It will change everything for everyone but why not wait to let the dust settle?

If a size 5 earthquake is heading your way you don't suddenly build your entire housing stock out of egg shells and crepe paper and push for a size 10 earthquake. You hunker down and ride out the wave first.

[ichkeria]

Opinion polls differ as the popularity of independence at this time.
Most suggest a majority don't want one a referendum soon.
It would be a mistake to assume that Scotland's desire for independence is joined at the hip to wanting to stay in the EU: it is not. And that's not good news for unionists, who's argument that Scotland would have to leave the EU anyway and rejoin and it might take years etc is not necessarily going to cause too much alarm with many.

[Togo]

//it's about choosing our own direction/ future//

Haha by handing said choices over to Brussels......What it is about is not having England have any influence in the direction or meaning of the future. In which case let England also vote in the referendum. There would be no need for another, Scotland would be out. But Scotland wouldn't be in The pyramid scheme either, Spain would see to that, and the Shetlands may fancy their own referendum which would of course be encouraged by.............England. :))

[mushroom25]

at this time, the chances of an independent Scotland becoming a member of the EU in their own right is nil. any application will be blocked by the Spanish.

[steg]

//. In which case let England also vote in the referendum//
I would suggest you get in touch with you MPs and see if they can arrange that

[steg]

//If a size 5 earthquake is heading your way you don't suddenly build your entire housing stock out of egg shells and crepe paper and push for a size 10 earthquake. You hunker down and ride out the wave first. //
No "size 5 earth quake" has been forecast tho

[mikey4444]

Mush....I am not very well up on this subject, but why would Spain block Scotland from joining the EU ?

[Togo]

It would set a precedent for their very own Basque agitators to gain independence and EU admission.

[Togo]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11054187/Spain-and-Belgium-would-veto-an-independent-Scotlands-EU-membership.html

[steg]

//and the Shetlands may fancy their own referendum which would of course be encouraged by.............England. :))//

Why would england encourage that?

[Togo]

Why not? Just to cause a nuisance of ourselves and emulate hundreds of years of Scottish behaviour. Ohh the fun to be had. :))

[steg]

Ah.... sour grapes pmsl

[Togo]

Plus we could invite them to be the base for Trident and to become extremely wealthy in the process. :))

[steg]

Wealthy lol uk is nearly £2trillion in dept

[steg]

*debt

[anneasquith]

" just to cause a nuisance of ourselves" LOL , do you know how stupid you sound Togo ?

[youngmafbog]

Give the rest of the UK a vote on it and Scotland will be gone by lunchtime.

Enough of the whining it is damaging both countries, time to float Scotland off.

Seems from the News today though the wee lass wont be seeking to join the EU (Probably because it has finally sunk in she cant)

It's not just the Spanish objection that is the problem. To join the EU they wold have to adopt the EURO and Scotland is spending too much (by around 3 times) so would not qualify.