Shooting At Paris Orly?

[Zacs-Master]

Scant details so far:
https://www.rt.com/news/381219-shooting-paris-orlya-airport/

[Islay]

Apparently someone has been shot dead after trying to steal a soldiers gun.

[murraymints]

Paris sure gets more than its' fair share of trouble !

[Zacs-Master]

From the BBC 'A security operation is continuing with bomb disposal experts involved.'

But I suspect that may be standard procedure.

[-Talbot-]

A police officer has been shot in a separate incident in Paris.

[Peter Pedant]

AOG would say: why oh why dont ABers see that this is obviously terrorist ?

well this certainly looks like it
and also reflects the change in attitude from - these are hostage takers and to negotiated with to the view these are killers and if we dont kill them they will kill us ...

it is a dangerous change ...

[Zacs-Master]

Bit of a wild assumption at this stage PP. may turn out to be true but extrapolating a terrorist strategy from one shooting is a bit OTT. When have terrorists been seen as hostage takers?

[ladybirder]

Watching this on Sky News. Looks like separate incidents on two days running. Very troubling. I love Paris, so sad.

[Zacs-Master]

Both shootings happened today.

[ladybirder]

I was referring to these killings yesterday Zacs. Not the same situation of course but still horrible.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/paris-police-man-slits-throat-of-his-father-and-brother/2017/03/17/0b2c2ca6-0b07-11e7-bd19-fd3afa0f7e2a_story.html?utm_term=.926cf4468f18

[Peter Pedant]

// When have terrorists been seen as hostage takers?//

bataclan - 99 dead

froggie police outside waiting for negotiations and smoking cigarettes and people inside phoning out - saying you know they are killing us all dont you ?

how long does it take to kill 99 people ? around 90 mins I think

[Peter Pedant]

// Question Author Bit of a wild assumption at this stage PP.//

so AOG was right after all ? ( sorry AOG it was intended to be ironic)

no - - - - wild conclusion ( on the facts )
man grabs gun
how many times have you seen/heard that when they DON'T intend to use it ? None

how many gun deaths from terrorism have there been in gay Paree ( at least a few hundred ) compared to others ? ( fewer )

so the conclusion er seems reasonable

[Zacs-Master]

They took hostages as the second phase of the attack at bataclan. Hostage's account here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34889539

[Peter Pedant]

thx ZM I was completely unaware of hostage taking

[Khandro]

More votes for Marine

[Zacs-Master]

Ah ok. Your 'froggie police outside waiting for negotiations' comment seemed to suggest you knew about it.

[Peter Pedant]

o god I cant resist this.....

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/societe/fait-divers/paris-l-aeroport-d-orly-sud-en-cours-d-evacuation-un-homme-abattu_1890447.html

foreign news item - reported in foreign !
Naomi will go craaaaaaazy !

warning for those of a nervous disposition - O level French reqd

[Peter Pedant]

// our 'froggie police outside waiting for negotiations' comment seemed to suggest you knew about it.//

no the smoking cigarettes bit was meant to convey a lack of sense of urgency as they waited for the Paree HSE to declare "it was a safe environment in which to shoot people" - and knowing the HSE that could be a few days ....

[shades of Hungerford - not in France ]

[Zacs-Master]

But you responded to and even quoted my comment. Why did you do that if your answer wasn't to challenge my hostage comment?

[webbo3]

From sky news.//Police source says the man behind the Paris incidents was a radicalised muslim known to intelligence services//

[anotheoldgit]

It has been reported that both shootings are linked, and committed by a 'radicalised' Muslim (always safer to differentiate, it would seem)