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So How Does Everyone Feel About Those Of Us Unhappy With Brexit Having 'opt-In Eu Citizenship'?
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I will be opting in. Why should I lose the right to live and work in any EU country I choose?
17:10 Wed 29th Mar 2017
I am sure Theresa May would be delighted at the idea.
After all she wants to please everyone apparently :-)
How do I feel about people who would not be happy about it?
I would not be concerned about people in this country who were not happy about it, but I WOULD worry that it might cause people in the rest of the EU to be unhappy about it ...
After all she wants to please everyone apparently :-)
How do I feel about people who would not be happy about it?
I would not be concerned about people in this country who were not happy about it, but I WOULD worry that it might cause people in the rest of the EU to be unhappy about it ...
The EU is not a nation yet and so has no citizens of its own, so consequently can not offer citizenship in any meaningful interpretation of the word. It the EU wishes to offer concessions to UK citizens that's their perogative just so long as they aren't daft enough to expect this to be reciprocated to citizens of countries in the EU.
OG has beaten me to it but I’m not entirely clear what it is that Mr V is offering.
He talks of “retaining rights as EU citizens”. There is no such thing as EU citizenship. The 500m people across Europe are citizens of 28 individual nations that happen to be members of the EU. But perhaps that’s a matter of semantics. However, he says his plan would allow UK citizens who opt in to his scheme to retain the right to live and work in the EU. (He also says they could vote in EU elections but since that is a fairly worthless exercise I doubt that will sway too many people). I like this bit:
“The proposal could potentially give Brits who live and work across borders a workaround to the disruption caused by the Leave vote – and young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.”
“An increasingly isolated UK”? I think not. It is the EU that seeks isolationism. It is an increasingly inward looking organisation which pursues a protectionist agenda which shows no sign of wavering. It should be remembered that there are around eight times as many nations outside the EU (many of whom have no trading agreements with the EU – and hence the UK). Still it doesn't really matter what the Independent thinks.
Like Vulcan I suggest that those people wishing to retain “EU citizenship” may like to consider moving to an EU nation. That’s the easiest solution surely. I also cannot understand how a UK citizen who lives here might want to vote for an MEP who represents, say, northern France or Eastern Poland. However, so long as there no similar reciprocal arrangements suggested, the EU can really do what it likes.
He talks of “retaining rights as EU citizens”. There is no such thing as EU citizenship. The 500m people across Europe are citizens of 28 individual nations that happen to be members of the EU. But perhaps that’s a matter of semantics. However, he says his plan would allow UK citizens who opt in to his scheme to retain the right to live and work in the EU. (He also says they could vote in EU elections but since that is a fairly worthless exercise I doubt that will sway too many people). I like this bit:
“The proposal could potentially give Brits who live and work across borders a workaround to the disruption caused by the Leave vote – and young people looking to flee an increasingly isolated UK greater choice over where to move to.”
“An increasingly isolated UK”? I think not. It is the EU that seeks isolationism. It is an increasingly inward looking organisation which pursues a protectionist agenda which shows no sign of wavering. It should be remembered that there are around eight times as many nations outside the EU (many of whom have no trading agreements with the EU – and hence the UK). Still it doesn't really matter what the Independent thinks.
Like Vulcan I suggest that those people wishing to retain “EU citizenship” may like to consider moving to an EU nation. That’s the easiest solution surely. I also cannot understand how a UK citizen who lives here might want to vote for an MEP who represents, say, northern France or Eastern Poland. However, so long as there no similar reciprocal arrangements suggested, the EU can really do what it likes.
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