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Well I Was Waiting For Mikey......
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Looks like Tory 112 seat majority.Wonder why mikey seems to have gone off Electoral Calculus, he was quoting it more or less daily in 2015!
Looks like Tory 112 seat majority.Wonder why mikey seems to have gone off Electoral Calculus, he was quoting it more or less daily in 2015!
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Thing is that I don't think anyone can agree on what "better" even means. Nor does anyone agree on whether or not it's important to keep hold of constituencies or not.
What I mean by "better" depends then on that first point, ie do you want single-MP constituencies as a matter of principle? If not, then something vaguely proportional follows as an obvious next step (doesn't have to be *exactly* proportional either, by the way!) If you *do* want single-MP constituencies, then I think a "better" system is anything that gives voters the freedom to express a more "nuanced" preference, something like "I want this guy but I wouldn't mind that guy".
But anyway. I've run down this debate before and not exactly met with much enthusiasm. I'll confine myself to moaning at opportune moments about how the system is basically a great way of locking in the Tory/Labour duopoly. Or, rather, the Tory/who cares monopoly, as Labour are going to get a spanking in June.
What I mean by "better" depends then on that first point, ie do you want single-MP constituencies as a matter of principle? If not, then something vaguely proportional follows as an obvious next step (doesn't have to be *exactly* proportional either, by the way!) If you *do* want single-MP constituencies, then I think a "better" system is anything that gives voters the freedom to express a more "nuanced" preference, something like "I want this guy but I wouldn't mind that guy".
But anyway. I've run down this debate before and not exactly met with much enthusiasm. I'll confine myself to moaning at opportune moments about how the system is basically a great way of locking in the Tory/Labour duopoly. Or, rather, the Tory/who cares monopoly, as Labour are going to get a spanking in June.
Ironically, Jim, the reason May seems to be calling this election is that a small faction within her tiny majority Government could (or is trying to) wield too much power - power that their size does not really justify. This is the major downside of PR-type systems and, in calling for another election, she is trying to remove that power.
An idea. Here's a list of the biggest countries in the world by population:
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The UK is #21.
Which country in say the top 30 has a preferable voting system?
An idea. Here's a list of the biggest countries in the world by population:
http://
The UK is #21.
Which country in say the top 30 has a preferable voting system?
As you say it makes perfect sense for May to call an election for all the reasons she don't give: namely, ditch the Cameron legacy, slaughter Labour and get a more comfortable majority even if it means losing some seats to the Lib Dems, and above all avoid the next two years of Brexit wrangling and likely fudge and compromise sullying the run up to a 2020 election instead.
Not sure which country has the best young system there but Bangladesh polling stations definitely more crowded than Russian by that list :-)
Not sure which country has the best young system there but Bangladesh polling stations definitely more crowded than Russian by that list :-)
Back to the subject, there is no real reason for another GE now. Tories presently have a majority and they will afterwards too. They may grab a very small number of Liberal seats but not so much as makes any real odds, and the louder Liberal critics will still exist to make noise. They're unlikely to make much headway against the SNP because they are elected due to national pride and not what's best for Britain. They could well pick up Labour seats due to Labour disarray and Remainer sympathies still being expressed, but the safe seats will remain so it's questionable how many more would fall. All in all this is a distraction that should result in little real change of power.
"They may grab a very small number of Liberal seats "
Unlikely I'd have thought (there are only 9 to grab anyway).
They are more likely to lose a few to the Lib Dems but do damage in Tory Labour marginals. If Labour's vote collapses in traditional areas who knows what might happen.
It makes perfect politcal sense for the Tories to so this - it is risky to a degree, but they obviously feel the risks are not sufficiently gret compared to the risk of ploughing on through the Brexit negotiations to a 2020 election
Unlikely I'd have thought (there are only 9 to grab anyway).
They are more likely to lose a few to the Lib Dems but do damage in Tory Labour marginals. If Labour's vote collapses in traditional areas who knows what might happen.
It makes perfect politcal sense for the Tories to so this - it is risky to a degree, but they obviously feel the risks are not sufficiently gret compared to the risk of ploughing on through the Brexit negotiations to a 2020 election
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