One Of The Reasons Labour Wont Get My Vote.

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This is one of the reasons this odious man wont get my vote.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/19/exclusive-mi5-opened-file-jeremy-corbyn-amid-concerns-ira-links/


Dave.

[anotheoldgit]

The reason that Labour won't get my vote is because they offer us so many good things in their manifesto, yet never state how they are going to pay for all these goodies.

Much different from the Tories warts and all manifesto, that outlines the present position and how they intend to fix them.

It may not make for such comfortable reading but at least you have got to give them credit for not trying to butter us up with goodies that they can't afford to pay for.

[Baldric]

///It has also been claimed that the London Labour Briefing, a magazine which Mr Corbyn sat on the board of and frequently contributed to along with Mr McDonnell and Diane Abbott, was being monitored by the security services.///

Monitoring Dianne Abbott, that must have been a 'short-straw' job.

[Kromovaracun]

Labour's manifesto makes explicit their funding sources though. Whatever you think of their policy, you know where they will increase tax and where the money will go.

Tory manifesto - immigration target is uncosted, won't tell us how many pensioners will lose WFA (and therefore what will be saved). Tories have a much higher history of borrowing than Labour, they just lie about it.

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Re: the OP, yeah I can understand that. Corbyn has taken some extremely odd positions in the past and unlike his Shadow chancellor has not sufficiently accounted for them or responded.

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Kromovaracun

\\Labour's manifesto makes explicit their funding sources though. Whatever you think of their policy, you know where they will increase tax and where the money will go. //


They have no idea about the cost of renationalising the railways and energy firms as the share price can change, even corbyn admitted this.

Dave.

[youngmafbog]

//Labour's manifesto makes explicit their funding sources though. //

Except those sources will not generate the income required so effectively they have not said where the money will come from.

As for JC, McDonald and the rest of them IRA connections is not a surprise surely?

[Kromovaracun]

The Tory manifesto includes 60 pledges that are totally uncosted. This includes increasing R&D funding, £1bn extra for prisons, increasing school budgets by £4bn, dementia research, increasing defence spending, 1 million trees, a completely vague "cultural development fund", more low-emission buses, moving civil servants out of London, increasing funding for TEFL, training one million people in mental health awareness, etc etc...

These go on and on and on and have no costing whatsoever. None. No indication about where the money for any of these is going to come from. And that's before you get to biggest omissions - i.e. how much their immigration target would cost and where the axe will fall on means testing WFA.

Labour have costed their promises to a far greater extent. Furthermore this chartered accountant has actually taken a look at the UK's debt history under the two parties and put the data right in front of the reader:

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2016/03/13/the-conservatives-have-been-the-biggest-borrowers-over-the-last-70-years/

Not only do Labour consistently borrow less, they also pay off significantly more of our debt on average when they are in office. Meanwhile the Tories have ENORMOUSLY increased our debt since 2010 (though it had been going up since 2008 for obvious reasons):

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/debt_history

As soon as you actually look at the facts rather than run on political autopilot, it becomes clear that this idea Labour are somehow the ditsy spendthrift party is a load of politically-charged nonsense.

[hereIam]

They'll get my vote now after what May is doing to pensioners ... !

[dunnitall]

If all true, I hope others will follow your stance and leave well alone.

[naomi24]

hereIam, what is she doing to pensioners that is so awful?

[ludwig]

I'll be voting Labour. They've promised to give everyone a free Unicorn when they get in (which I've always wanted), and furthermore they're going to make 'rich ***' pay for it. So it's all good.

[ludwig]

B * a * S terdsZ

[ChillDoubt]

He'll never get my vote because he's a ***.

[ChillDoubt]

That was twit, but the type that rhymes with hat.

[New Judge]

"They'll get my vote now after what May is doing to pensioners ... !"

Yes perhaps you would like to explain what it is you believe the manifesto proposes. Especially for the "less well off" pensioners.

[emmie]

i won't be voting for Labour, never have never will

[hereIam]

May is losing the 'grey vote' by her attack on pensioners, who are imo the most vulnerable in society and need all the help they can get, particularly after a life of hard work when they have paid their way !!! How dare she stop the fuel allowance, she'll always be warm won't she and aiming to end the triple lock too - what a b****!! She should be looking after pensioners, not penalising them and still millions goes to overseas aid - MAD !! People are waking up to what a cow she is now and she is losing support because of it. I am NOT a fan of Corbyn, but I will vote Labour over her, at least he won't stop pensioners benefits and naomi and NJ, if this post isn't good enough for you, tough, I've had my say and I won't be adding anything to it.

[New Judge]

“I've had my say and I won't be adding anything to it.”

Shame.

We could have discussed how the “triple lock” being reduced to a “double lock” is unlikely to make much difference to State Pension increases certainly in the short to medium term (because it is unlikely that both average earnings and inflation will both be significantly below 2.5% for a time). Still, never mind.