Is Britain A Fair And Equal Society?

[Khandro]

A few facts on here may make you wonder;

[Islay]

Oh Goodie another anti muslim thread!!

[AB Editor]

Hi Khandro,

He's a self-identifying neo-nazi, it's not really up for debate.

You're posting propaganda from a neo-nazi, and taking it as fact.

There's a more up to date version of this somewhere from the ONS (which I haven't been able to find, I think it was a 2014 report):
https://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/ethnicity/focus-on-religion/2004-edition/focus-on-religion-summary-report.pdf

But it reports the number of unemployed Muslim men as the highest amongst religious groups. I have no problem with these stats as the basis for a real discussion on what appears to be a real problem.

But you're not here for that, are you?

[fiction-factory]

it appears that a very high proportion of Muslims don't work

To conclude that, naomi, you must have compared the number of muslims you have seen in daylight to the actual number of muslims in the area.
I'd be interested to see your data and why you feel it is more reliable the official data . Or are you just using hyperbole when you say the figure is very high

Maybe some people see what they want to see

[sp1814]

Thanks Ed...we really need to be careful about sources linked to in threads. I for one don't want neo-Nazi propaganda clips showing up on my YouTube history.

[Khandro]

AB Editor //He's a self-identifying neo-nazi, it's not really up for debate. //
Really, from where do you gather that, please give your "self-identifying" reference? and why can you not address any of my my questions instead of continually detracting, e.g. what do you mean by a Neo-Nazi? and Which organization is in essence closest to Nazism, Islam or the British National Party?

[Zacs-Master]

Self identifying:
Collett featured on a Channel 4 documentary on the BNP - Young, Nazi and Proud broadcast in 2002 which concentrated almost exclusively on Collett. He declared his admiration for Adolf Hitler.

[Khandro]

Zacs; I find it amusing that you are prepared to spend your time researching the history of the messenger, having to go back 15 years to something he may have said (with no link) rather that address my questions or indeed, v_e's (15:30 Thurs.).

[Zacs-Master]

'prepared to spend your time'....all of 20 seconds to cut n paste from Mamya's link. I think the burden of proof is on you old chap.

[Khandro]

Au contraire, 'old chap', I don't have to prove anything, I ask the questions and you, if you so wish, should answer, something you don't seem to be able to do.

[Zacs-Master]

Well, if you come on a public discussion forum claiming a Nazi has the answer to socio-economic problems, then you deserve the criticism you've received and for your debating skill to be well and truly questioned. An unprecedented series of comments from the Ab Editor shows just how far out of whack with sensible thinking you are, but still you try to futilely defend your position.

[Khandro]

This thread has nothing to do with the author of the video it is solely about its content.
I respectfully request that you either answer my or v_e's questions, or withdraw yourself.

[THECORBYLOON]

Can you justify the claim that £13 billion are spent on unproductive Muslims? An official source please rather than a link to a back of an envelope, stab in the dark calculation.

[fender62]

i do remeber this article, and if any of the things in the video are true then they need to be stopped, as it says come to britain and live off the tax payer for life and never integrate either socially or economically..
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/510749/claim-jihad-seekers-allowance/

[anotheoldgit]

/// There's no place for it in modern british life, nor on this site. As you know. ///

ED, can I please ask a question without it or myself being removed?

Can the rules be revised so we all know what can or can't be debated upon?

Perhaps also the words 'neo-Nazi', 'fascist', 'racist' and 'bigot' can be censored out, just the same as other offensive words are on AB?

[Zacs-Master]

Khandro, your insistence that the video demonstrates the answer to our socio-economic problems has led to any shred of respect I had for you being eroded to dust I'm afraid. Your request for me to withdraw is therefore null and void.

[Khandro]

I have a daughter who is a hard-working tax paying self-employed English graphic designer, she would quite like to move into London, she could get work there, but the cost of finding herself a flat would be prohibitive because so much of her income would have go on a mortgage.

What has been highlighted by the recent tragic tower block fire is just how many immigrants are living a subsidised existence in similar places in desirable parts of London where my daughter could not afford to live.

[Zacs-Master]

And suddenly the reason for the OP becomes clear.

[Khandro]

I'm pleased to see the penny has finally dropped.

[Baldric]

The penny would have dropped more rapidly for the majority of us if you had mentioned your impoverished offspring earlier.