Terrorist Attack Or Hatred Attack?

[saintpeter48]

Why are most news outlets saying that last nights attack was a 'terrorist attack'!
Thats not the way I see it, it was some deluded idiot, with his own agenda, who felt the need to attack people who follow Islam, surely thats not a terrorist attack.
Has it been given that title to try and appease muslims?

[sp1814]

Why are we even bothering arguing over semantics?

Evil, deranged killer.

Whether he's a terrorist or a lone wolf psycho, the effect is the same - death, injury and fear.

I honestly think that whilst people are in hospital with life threatening injuring - focussing on how the attacker is labelled is like rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.

[dieseldick]

yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they havent even assessed him yet, maybe he was mentally ill ? you know the same as the " muslim " knife attacker in sweden , the " muslim" axe attacker in germany, the " muslim " suicide bomber in..............

i think he was just like me...completely ***d off with these islamic scumbags getting away with " blue f******g murder "

what or who are the egenda pushing this ???????????????
i cannot buy into this , the worlds going mad and i cannot for the life of me think why this is all coming to the fore now in the last few years,

something is happening ?
10 years ago i did not think about muslims or islam....

it connot continue !!

[Mamyalynne]

SP has it at 22.24 - who cares what label you stick on it.

[naomi24]

I would have thought the 'label' is relevant to the charges brought.

[Mamyalynne]

Well I'll let the authorities sort that one out.

[naomi24]

Let's face it - we're not in a position to do otherwise.

[-Talbot-]

SP has it at 22.24 - who cares what label you stick on it.


Join Twitter and then you will see that plenty care about the label you stick on it.

[Jackdaw33]

I am somewhat filled with foreboding. This may be seen by some as 'pour encourager les autres'. 49 years ago Enoch Powell quoted from the Aeneid, Book VI. When Aeneas visited the Sybil to ask what she foretold she replied, "...bella, horrida bella"
"Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno"

(Wars, terrible wars, and I seem to see the Tiber foaming with much blood)

[Mamyalynne]

If I actually thought that me typing chapter and verse would change what charge is brought I may do that, but it won't.


I am not saying I don't care about death and/or maiming whoever is doing it because believe me I do.

[david small]

Perhaps he thought let's see how they like it....an eye for an eye etc. Just saying.

[Gromit]

I don't think it was a terrorist attack, it was a lone nutter.
I suppose the authorities are trying to portray this as a terrorist attack because the modus operandi is the same as the the Westminster Bridge attack.
But they are entirely different. There is no ideology behind this attack, it is pure and simple hatred and bigotry, not ideologic religous fanaticism.

There is no attempt to appease muslims. They are desperately trying to portray a fairly minor attack by a
Numpty as the same as a IS or al qaeda planned atrocity, and it was anything but.

[Old_Geezer]

Why not call the US school murders a terrorist attack if you so wish ? They caused terror.

[naomi24]

The Oxford dictionary defines ‘terrorist’ as “A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims”. Clearly, I think, an act of retribution but since “political aims” do not appear to have been his motivation, not terrorism.

[Old_Geezer]

But he is being charged with terrorist offences so maybe the Oxford dictionary needs to expend its definition.

[naomi24]

I know, but perhaps that’s because it’s expedient. A lesser charge is likely to be perceived as a blatant exercise in ‘double standards’, particularly by the Muslim community.

[youngmafbog]

So we have to change our dictionary to appease people?

[Khandro]

If a Muslim acts in this way, the so-called IS would refer to it as a "lone-wolf" attack, thereby claiming it as part of their agenda.

[naomi24]

youngmafbog, we change other things to appease the Muslim population. The dictionary definition of 'Terrorist' is just another addition to the list.

[ichkeria]

Most dictionary definitions of 'terrorism' suggest a political motive or the idea that some aim is being pursued. In many of these cases, be they so-called jihadist or racist, it is very hard to say for certain what the motive or aim is beyond blind hatred. However when the authorities say they are treating it as a 'terrorist' incident it doesn't mean they are merely slapping a label on it: it means that they are looking for potential links to terrorist organisations, in this case previously unknown perhaps, who may have such aims and motives.
Hopefully they will conclude: 'lone nutcase'

[Gromit]

A troubled man.

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