Corbyn's Triumphal Return To Commons Business

[scooping]

Twenty per cent of his own MPs refuse to back him on single market vote. Five frontbenchers fired/quit. Shortest honeymoon yet?

[naomi24]

Oops! And just days ago he was sure he'd cracked it - and so were his fans.

[scooping]

Prob best if we ignore my post and stick with 'Labour'. Sorry to the other post-er.

[ichkeria]

Most of Corbyn's new supporters assume that he has a more positive approach to the EU than May.
Why they should think that I have no idea, but they do. Whether this abject event will register with them is anyone's guess.
The fact is Corbyn is anti-EU and his post-election hubris is showing through very clearly. You'd think the Brexiters would be pleased: they should be.

[Old_Geezer]

May seemed to do a U turn and now seems positive she wishes to leave the EU. How much more positive can one be with regards to the EU ?

[ichkeria]

May voted Remain
Corbyn is suspected by many of voting of voting Leave. He is out of step with much of the PLP on this and that has not changed. He is also out of step on this issue with most Labour voters. Whether that will matter or not is yet to be seen

[jourdain2]

I very much suspect that Mr. Corbyn voted 'Leave'. His instinct would have been to rescue the steelworks at Middlesborough - but this was forbidden by EU legislation. I'm sure he would prefer total control. He's treading a difficult line -- this is good for Brexiteers like me.

[ichkeria]

Brexit was not really an issue in the election as it turned out which is one reason Labour did quite well. The Tories need to can austerity pretty damn quick or Jeremy Corbyn is likely to be PM come the next election. However it's pretty much a nailed on certainty that Brexit if it happens will cause the huge economic problems for the UK possibly for decades. That coupled with Corbyn's disastrous policies is not something anyone should be looking at with any enthusiasm

[-Talbot-]

However it's pretty much a nailed on certainty that Brexit if it happens will cause the huge economic problems for the UK possibly for decades.


Sorry I missed it ... what's your job again?

[scooping]

Talbot: Nothing in politics these days is a 'nailed-on certainty'. That said, I simply don't believe that Brexit will harm the economy. The other European countries will want to trade with us and there's no reason why we can't expand our trade with the rest of the world.

[jim360]

I expect that, in the end, it will be in everyone's interests to make Brexit work. Even if it does end up being "worse" than we would have been staying in the EU, economically I suspect that many people won't really notice the difference.

[Quizmonster]

How many Tory backbenchers were potentially involved in the threatened "revolt" that caused the Maybot to crumble and make abortion treatment for Northern Irish women available free in England yesterday?
It seems the Conservative honeymoon was as short as the Labour one and their leader is on rather dodgier ground than Corbyn !

[ludwig]

It should serve as a reminder of what disarray the opposition is actually in, something that has been forgotten amid the euphoria of the triumphant 'not losing by as much as anyone expected' election result.

There's no good news here for anyone because we currently have both a shambolic government and a shambolic opposition.

[Gromit]

The British public voted for Brexit, so Corbyn's Labour Party is pro Brexit.
A handful of MPs wants to ignore the electorate and defy the Party position, and have been rightly reprimanded.

Meanwhile the Tories are equally split, with Hammond also favouring a soft Brexit. But no soft Brexit Tories voted to support the soft Brexit amendment, as they are too busy clinging desperately onto the their jobs. Greed before principles wins every time.

[naomi24]

Gromit, //The British public voted for Brexit, so Corbyn's Labour Party is pro Brexit.//

But they’re not, are they. The Labour party line pre-referendum was anti-Brexit, and Corbyn, expediently at the time, toed that line. He seems to have fooled the young voters at least - until now.

[ludwig]

Corbyn has always been anti-EU, pro-brexit Gromit. Let's not pretend that it's purely out of respect for the democratic will of the people he's adopting that position.

As Naomi say, it suits him to give that impression, because it plays well with the young voters.

[Gromit]

// it suits him [Corbyn] to give that impression. [that he is pro Brexit, anti EU] because it plays well with the young voters.

That does not make any sense. Young voters are pro EU, anti Brexit. Rather than playing well with young voters, it is the opposite, it plays badly with them. Other Corbyn policies are favoured by young voters, but not Brexit.

[naomi24]

Gromit, I think Ludwig means ‘suited’ him. That’s what I said, and he’s agreeing with me.